Red Heat: A Game of Russian Roulette

[MpozoY]

Eventually his crimes were so bad he just couldn't keep...

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[Fix Lag]

[icanhazcheesetoast]

i say 2 /month not 20 (20 is theyr probable stockpile)

and ra at top of theyr expansion where doing easly 450-500b between theyr rent space.
btw 60b is nothing for an alliance like RA too bad i liked dodger, did many great business deal with him. IO, primary. etc,



regards the top ally list imho

1) PL (the average level of competence is higher than others, fc are good, and theyr super fleet still impressive good timezone coverage, very good intelligence)

2) Raiden (top alliance regards titan, but not many sc tbh (i am sure ncdot-pl have double if not more supercarrier than raiden ) but regards subcapital tbh, they are imho behind but they have more numbers, for sure theyr choice to focus on titan is the best one at moment, but if they get nerfed raiden suddently will become much weaker, very strong eu time probably top in eve at moment, bad timezone coverage )

3) Ncdot (nearly at same amount of PL as super right now, good fc, funny ppl who really enjoy the game ,good timezone coverage, more numbers than PL, if they get more ppl and reach 150+ each timezone imho they become e really big force to deal with right now if ncdot was like raiden with all ppl concentrated in one timezone, they where stronger)

4) Goonswarm (mass of zerg, neverthless they have mass of ppl, did i mention they are a loth? , good fc, but low number of fc,disappointing super fleet for a 7k man alliance, good timezone coverage , theyr force is politics and numbers, certainly not the average quality, good intelligence/organization)

5)Solar Fleet (Impressive numbers for theyr "size" impressive sc fleet, but not much titans tbh, certainly top russian alliance, bad timezone coverage for theyr size probably they have the most high partecipation, politically alone, forced to bind with -a- & co)

6)AAA ( i know -a- is shit bla bla, but in truth they never die, only go to hell for regroup, good numbers up to 260+ good timezone coverage, on paper one of bigger super fleet, but they have too much enemy with too much super for field them in safety,)

6) Evoke ( I like them dont get me wrong, 250 drakes, are emmm 250 drakes, really drakes? yes a lot but is a low level ships, evoke still circle around searching for a home, theyr super fleet is good but under pl raiden ncdot -a- , for sure when they focus on something they are problematic, 2nd powerful eu timezone ally in game imho )

7) Test (They are learning and learning fast, theyr pet are shit, but test are improving and there is a lot of potential expecial by being around PL & Co, with time they will be a force to recon. , they lack totally a supercapital fleet.

8) Red Alliance (They are warriors, but quality, and too much fail are making them weak, also all theyr pets-allies are busy/or failing so when i judge an ally i include his political situations, and Ra is in a bad internal and external situation , good numbers but they are dropping, and even if theyr super fleet once where big, they suffered too much losses, and with no isk, no replacements, so less ppl will log in , if not where for all this probles they where probably in in posizione 5-6 )

9) Null2 (they growing, improving, but they lack space, they cant expand , even if they hate romanian legion and want theyr space, they cant have it cause, -a- and stain empire, they also lack supers, but theyr subcap fleet is improving in both numbers and quality )

10) Pick any 2ndary ally, just no IRC, really, IRC? my corp alone have more kills than theyr entire alliance with a 50% efficiency difference in positive )

Horus draft mode Tier list ??

[Lorax]

Horus draft mode Tier list ??

Apparently, even though he helped with the monstrous creation that is IRC, hes still bitter about being kicked out.

[progodlegend]

How the hell did nulli become a topic in this thread?

[ihaveahelmet]

regards the top ally list imho

you are fucking retarded and every post you make here goes towards proving that point

[Finiks]

How the hell did nulli become a topic in this thread?

It's actually your damn fault and now we have to defend our space honor. Why on earth would you compare us with MIA. Jesus Christ!

[Finiks]

Like the time I jumped maels into Abbadons at zero because progod wouldn't jump in to me and then he cynos in triage archon and black legion batphone.

Utterly devastated.

True, that was way too much but i guess he wanted to have some fun with you?

I mean, after all we can easily defeat you with much less ppl in fleet like we already showed you.

Like http://valorinc.eve-kill.net/?a=kill...kll_id=9633522
or http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=4331

Darn, look all that alliances we batphoned in order to gank you.

[DingDong [banned]]

progod deploying north to feed his hard-on for sage

[Propagandas]

durrhurrrr we fight test but run from everyone else

Nulli #1 Nulli #1 Nulli #1 Nulli #1

[Finiks]

Heh, I dont really remember I said we were number one anywhere. On the other hand i can sense you do feel a little butt hurt for some unknown reason. Did we step on your balls somewhere along the way? If we did please accept my appologies and i can only promise we'll try to be more gentle with your genitals next time. <3

[Mr Coloredshirt]

friend finiks is claiming I'm "trash talking" S2N which is frankly just not true, but I can see how it might be construed that way. To validate my previous post about nulli setting the bar at limbo stick levels, here's progods "Time for Nulli Deployment - Fuckin Bitches and Getting Money In The North" (actual original thread name). It was posted like 2-3 days ago on nulli forums and has been up on foreplay a couple of days too.

As most of you have probably noticed right now, with RA pets gone or defeated, and Omist and Teneferis cleaned up, the area around us is sort of lacking when it comes to fights. Sure fountain roams our way every now and then, and we get plenty of kills there, but mindless fun and games is not a way to get ahead in life. So I hoped you enjoyed your 3 or 4 week break (I can’t tell whether to count the week spent breaking WTF and Friends as part of the break or not, i'm thinking yes), because starting this Wednesday we will be deploying North.

For those of you who are unaware of what’s going in EVE, right now there is a war going on between Goon block and Raiden Block(RDN/ev0ke/init/others). Lots of fights, lots of structures being hit on both sides, it’s about as back and forth as war’s can be in EVE these days. The fighting is focused in Branch and Tenal, and we will not … be helping either side out what so ever. We will definitely show up to the fights to pew pew who ever is within range of our guns, but we will be doing a variety of things up north.

Basically it’s better if I list the things we will be shooting and who owns them, as it’s quite a few:
- We will be hitting any tech moons around us with no prejudice really, but a specific target will be the RA and RA pet tech moons, as that directly helps our bro’s down south out (keep fighting the good fight).
- We will be having some fun in Intrepid Crossing, because they betrayed Solar, in a most unhonourable way, and nothing offends us more than lack of space honor. IRC are well known for showing up with good numbers to defend their space even for the slightest intrusions, so between roaming and RF’ing a few things, this will provide us some good fights and hopefully good fun (read:kills). Hopefully IRC will retain their honour, as space honor is one of the more priceless resources that are hard to replenish without more honouorable actions, such as fighting us.
- Like said above, we will be frequently flying up to venal/branch/tenal to shoot at goons and raiden whenever we feel like it. Sometimes we might bring a large fleet and try to get in thick of it, sometimes we might bring just bombers, or a small roaming gang to camp for reinforcement straglers. The beauty of it is, we don’t have any vested interest one way or the other in who wins (as far as alliance strategic goals are concerned, I don’t care who you hate more ). This means we are free to experiment in those fights how ever much we choose, and can pull out of the fight whenever we feel like it. Should be a lot of roaming fun as well.

- And the 4th and final target up in the north, so sweet it gets a space seperating it from the rest. Controlled chaos has moved to geminate to rest and get back on their feet.
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Geminate/D-I9HJ
According to their alliance recording, they will be getting those two constellations surrounding that system. Personally I think it is reason enough to go North just to see the reaction Sage and the rest of his alliance will have .
- Groups will also be getting into full gear up north, and there will be plenty of Black Ops and roaming to do up there as well.

I know that it sounds like we will just be doing a little bit of everything, and it may be kind of hard to see exactly how we fit up there, so let me explain it to you in another way (this may be a totally illrelevant stretch, but I had fun with it.)



It’s all very similar to the Madonna halftime show that happened during the Super Bowl last night. If you didn’t see it, go youtube it later, and next time make sure to watch the championship game of the most popular sport in the world. Till you see it, basically during a song when both Nicki Minaj and Madonna were on the stage, trying to share the limelight, MIA came out. She had no business being up there, and during here 15 second verse, managed to rhyme hits with tricks, and then proceeded to flip off the world while saying, “I don’t give a shit” with just enough auto tune to let everyone know she wasn't lying. So to draw a comparison, RDN is Madonna trying to show the rest of EVE that they still have what it takes to rock, even though they are old, no longer attractive, and move awkwardly and painfully trying to do basic dance moves. Goons sent DBRB’s gigantic ass onto stage to try and show RDN that just talking loudly and making strange noises and faces to get attention actually does work, and lands you a sweet job FC’ing lot’s of fleets. We are then gonna show up on stage, spit some ill rhymes and then tell everyone to get fucked as we burn out of bubbles and warp off, cause we can, cause we will not care which side wins those fights between RDN and Goons.

So on to stuff you actually need to know:

Move Times and Fleet Comps:

The move will start on Wednesday, this means you should start whoring as much isk as you can between now and the first move up. The actual system we are moving to will be held for a few days till we need to start letting more than just the corp leadership know. We will be moving a majority of the ships via carriers, but geddons will be moved with actual manual move full geddon fleets to save room, and to give you guys a way to get your actual clones up there. You won’t need everything, here is a list of the fleet comps we will be bringing:
- Geddons
- Nagas
- Arty Canes
- A-hacs
- Thorn Bombers (AB stealth bombers, fits will be posted up soon, but basically they are AB bombers with torps, will explain more later)

Be on the look out for some minor tweaks to fleet comps (just a possible module or two), which if they happen would be announced when the thorn bombers get posted.

Obviously you should bring whatever logi or other support ships you can, especially rooks for the a-hac fleet, those are crucial to the concept. Do not however, buy any new ships in C3N, as our deployment area will be seeded (mostly fitted ships on contract) quite nicely as it is very close to Jita. If you want to help seed whatever is needed on market, feel free to do so. You can help with public contracts as well, but since we can see those and control them much easier, know that any ridiculous gouging of pilots will be dealt with.

SRP

We will be continuing the SRP on deployment, and even expanding it to more ships, however this comes with a major stipulation. We still have very limited funds for the SRP, and our deployments are usually a mix between people who can fund themselves and last a while, and between people who rat for a good portion of their isk and eventually run out while on deployment. I know your corps help with this some, but the SRP will be expanded to cover other main ships (the actual percentage paid back yet to be determined.), but the program will be predominantly for people who actually need the ships replaced because they are low on isk and having trouble making more isk. If you can afford to replace your own losses consistently please do so, the SRP will run as long as it can but once it runs out of isk its gone. If we grab a decent amount of tech then we might be able to poor some money into it, but for the mean time this is the best solution. Just be decent about it and use your best judgment, don’t starve yourself not claimin SRP, but don’t abuse it, there are people who will need that money badly in 2 or 3 weeks.
stuff to cover:

- Shooting both sides, IRC, wtf, RA etc.
- Tech moons, etc. etc.
- fleet concepts
- Moving
- Duration
- SRP

Ops, Groups:

UNLESS WE HAVE COMPLICATIONS MOVING, OPS WILL START UP ON FRIDAY, WITH MAJOR OPS BEGINNING ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY. The ops will be pretty consistent and in both time zones. Thanks to thorn fleet, we will always have something that we can potentially fill our time with, but even that needs to be paced. During the down time between ops, there will be a decent amount of time for our new groups to take out roams and black ops fleets. If you have no read the groups post, please do so and see if you want to sign up for any. We are still setting up a few moderators and the forums, but the groups will be fully functional by the time we start moving.

The roaming groups will be wanting to run fleet comps that are not any one of the alliance wide fleet comps. If you want to get ships down for those roaming gangs, it should be quite easy through corp because of the proximity to Jita, but to help out with anything that slips through the cracks, we will also be setting up a channel for Jump Freighter pilots to chill in. Hopefully through that channel, you will be able to jump in and setup a courier contract from jita to our staging system if you were unable to get your stuff moved some other way.

C3I:

Having a lot of scouts and cyno’s all over the north will be absolutely crucial for us. The enemies up north can all form very quickly and move out in seconds, and we will need to have eyes everywhere to know when this is happening, as well as cynos spread around so we can do our own rapid forming and ganking. If you have the time or characters to contribute to C3I group, please do so, as they are the most important part of the alliance most the time. C3I is also a great way to break into the FC group, as we are never going to look for fc’s that have never helped us out in the support role at all.

Finale:

And that’s pretty much the gist of it. It should be a shit ton of fun, as well as a lot of isk to possibly be made, and more Controlled Chaos tears to be harvested. As always with our deployments, ratting in the pocket will not be allowed, deployments are mandatory. We will actually have a few decent isk making options near by, if you absolutely have to do so, so just keep that in mind. The deployment will last anywhere from 3-5 weeks or maybe even more if it’s going really well (no reason to not take tech if you can take more tech right? hopefully it comes to that). The main thing is we will be mostly on our own, except for HUN’s and Vcruz, they will be there .

So this is a good chance for us to go around and do what we want, fuckin bitches and making money. See you guys up there.

Biggie Smalls feat Jr. M.A.F.I.A - Get Money

sub to foreplay to read every other update they post, also watch me and the nulli directorate battle over who can leak their forums the fastest because yea that's a thing apparently

[Agathor]

durrhurrrr we fight test but run from everyone else

Nulli #1 Nulli #1 Nulli #1 Nulli #1

When the best fc in PL likes talking about you, it does not matter what he says really. The attention whore in me just likes him thinking about me

[Propagandas]

Heh, I dont really remember I said we were number one anywhere. On the other hand i can sense you do feel a little butt hurt for some unknown reason. Did we step on your balls somewhere along the way? If we did please accept my appologies and i can only promise we'll try to be more gentle with your genitals next time. <3

Ah guys he is calling us shit he must be butthurt or mad, or maybe he just think we are shit v0v0v0v0v

[Berdennol]

friend finiks is claiming I'm "trash talking" S2N which is frankly just not true, but I can see how it might be construed that way. To validate my previous post about nulli setting the bar at limbo stick levels, here's progods "Time for Nulli Deployment - Fuckin Bitches and Getting Money In The North" (actual original thread name). It was posted like 2-3 days ago on nulli forums and has been up on foreplay a couple of days too.


sub to foreplay to read every other update they post, also watch me and the nulli directorate battle over who can leak their forums the fastest because yea that's a thing apparently

Our alliance updates are quite decent tbh. I'm a proponent of just releasing them to the public the second they hit our forums.

To Finiks: Propagandas is probably the most prolific troll on kugu, you're doing yourself no favors.

[Finiks]

I gotta say I missjudged Propagandas completely, the more I read his posts I like his style more and more. Feels so damn wrong. :S

[Mr Coloredshirt]

Our alliance updates are quite decent tbh. I'm a proponent of just releasing them to the public the second they hit our forums.

They are, see foreplay.

[Agathor]

And I thank you for it Mr.Cholo.

[Agathor]

God know I cant be bothered reading the nulli forums. They are terrible to be honest.

[Matos]

I gotta say I missjudged Propagandas completely, the more I read his posts I like his style more and more. Feels so damn wrong. :S

His posts always have just enough truth so that you can't be sure if he is serious.

[Ymir]

God know I cant be bothered reading the nulli forums. They are terrible to be honest.

Alliance forums usually are, exception would be Goonfleet.com ofc.

[G M]

Alliance forums usually are, exception would be Goonfleet.com ofc.

IRC's forums aren't bad, because nobody posts on them, ever.

[Berdennol]

They are, see foreplay.

I know they are, but not everyone has access.

I doubt the current forum leaks really bother anyone. All of Nulli knows Grim Determination is made up of Canaris + 158 spies anyway.

[Mr Coloredshirt]

I know they are, but not everyone has access.

I doubt the current forum leaks really bother anyone. All of Nulli knows Grim Determination is made up of Canaris + 158 spies anyway.

yup definitely just GRDE that has spies

[Letters]

IRC's forums aren't bad, because nobody posts on them, ever.

But maybe that is the case because it is that bad in the first place?

[NAP]

Can we carry on the E-Peen lists in another topic maybe and get this one back to Rus fighting Rus + gang bang?

[Elektrea]

To Finiks: Propagandas is probably the most prolific troll on kugu, you're doing yourself no favors.

Just because you don't agree with his facts doesn't mean hes a troll. Hes one of the more connected people on this board. Hes in all the channels, he has all the forums, he has all the insight you and your alliance wish you could ever have.

[penifSMASH]

I gotta say I missjudged Propagandas completely, the more I read his posts I like his style more and more. Feels so damn wrong. :S

you are a bad poster and you should literally kill yourself for it

[MandozerTheGreat [banned]]

indians aren't people

[Scotch]

Enjoy walking from one ass-end of the galaxy to the other, chumps.

[Max]

Alliance forums usually are, exception would be Goonfleet.com ofc.

Since Solodrakban opened up the goonfleetdotcom forums to the CFC, I have discovered that the mythical Eden Of Good Posting is all a scam. Goons are just as bad posters as the rest of us.

I was pretty when I found out.

[Elise Randolph]

Can we carry on the E-Peen lists in another topic maybe and get this one back to Rus fighting Rus + gang bang?

There's a fight in about 3 hours that -A- will invariably get butthurt about. Spoiler alert: we cheated/created lag/meta gamed and the Tengus were drunk/black-screen'd/already replaced

Other than that, not much happened today. About 250 RA and XIX tried to take on 230 Gypsy/Solar (bomber heavy), and got the dicks bombed out of them because they did that thing where they unexpectedly and quite randomly warp out and warp back in one giant blob where they know bombers are setup. PL took TiDi Fighter Cats (there is a culture war over the naming of these things, with Titty Cats edging out competitors), jumped in, and raped every Solar BS. RA, while they welped most of their fleet to bombs, were unironically happy because they saw primaries going down really fast and attributed it to their new fleet. I'm pretty sure they noticed this phenomena when we jumped in and started raping, but didn't have the heart to tell them.

[Dinique]

Who was the RA FC in that fight because god damn apparently that guy thinks he has to do a certain number of manoeuvres per minute or people will forget he's the resident tactical genius.

They also disappeared to a safespot for 5 minutes to rep.

[Agathor]

Dinique are you Demoria?

[Dinique]

No, Demoria is Demoria.

I am Dinique.

[Agathor]

I used to cyper with him back in IAC

[Dinique]

I used to cyper with him back in IAC

I don't sound anything like him sorry

[pinoyzzz]

You do on some days

[Propagandas]

AAA killed 1 bs before trying to bail, lost 20 tengus.

3 csaas saved.

Making mad bank in this region lmao

[Analogic Disturbance]

AAA killed 1 bs before trying to bail, lost 20 tengus.

3 csaas saved.

Making mad bank in this region lmao

Drunk gangs doesn't count and already replaced awwww

[Manny]

Maka the question begs to be asked: When does one face the truth that running away is a fruitless endeavor and does more harm than good?

[Propagandas]

Also when will they realise that battleships > tengus :iiam:

[CAPTAIN THUNK]

Also when will they realise that battleships > tengus :iiam:

Especially when they've already lost a few levels in subsystem skills.

[ihaveahelmet]

Fuck kdr. Fuck iskwars. Fuck strategic objectives.

This is now about the SPwar

[Russian God]

IRC sure needs to find a friend to play with.... RA will be finished and maybe we will come play with them.


http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12397369

[Y SO MAD [banned]]

http://killboard.solar-fleet.ru/?op=related&name=966487

Earlier today, Solar+friends vs RA+PL+friends

[Malcanis]

Maka the question begs to be asked: When does one face the truth that running away is a fruitless endeavor and does more harm than good?

When one runs away and joins PL?

[Raketefrau]

(there is a culture war over the naming of these things, with Titty Cats edging out competitors)

Every time I see "Tidicats' I think of the Ty-D-Bol Man:

Attachment 2471

Yeah. I'm old. I mean, I'm not, like, Grath old, but still....

[edit]Man, I *so* want that boat...

[Dizzy]

There's a fight in about 3 hours that -A- will invariably get butthurt about. Spoiler alert: we cheated/created lag/meta gamed and the Tengus were drunk/black-screen'd/already replaced

Other than that, not much happened today. About 250 RA and XIX tried to take on 230 Gypsy/Solar (bomber heavy), and got the dicks bombed out of them because they did that thing where they unexpectedly and quite randomly warp out and warp back in one giant blob where they know bombers are setup. PL took TiDi Fighter Cats (there is a culture war over the naming of these things, with Titty Cats edging out competitors), jumped in, and raped every Solar BS. RA, while they welped most of their fleet to bombs, were unironically happy because they saw primaries going down really fast and attributed it to their new fleet. I'm pretty sure they noticed this phenomena when we jumped in and started raping, but didn't have the heart to tell them.

Should rename them PussyCats cause u just stay far out of harms way at 180km and let ur buddies die in a fire while keeping your elite K/D ratio.. then gloating how pro you are.

[Elise Randolph]

Maybe -A- will take the doctrine and lose 150 Billion worth of Oracles in 3 days