The South - Not The Thread It Deserves, But The Thread It Needs Right Now

[Yoji]

So trying to fight a subcap fleet with supers is now a valid way to get GFs?

Dropping a few supers to assist a mixxed subcap fleet is fun. Dropping 100 supers to assist a bunch of tacklers is not. You see the difference?

The first makes the fight interesting and still pritty "fair". Its a hard fight but still well withing the GF domain.
The second is just a way to stop the fight immediately to get some easy griefings. Its not a fight at all and gets you blueballed in the future.

Its all about having fun. Me losing my Cane to a RA gatecamp isnt bad as long i could fight and have fun. Even when there are 4 kitsuuns on the field, and i get jammed. It becomes a race back to the gate. But still fun. There being 50 titans on the gate isnt.

[Gandalf Team]

accurate stuff

It wasn't in response to you, but to Yoji. I found it hypocritical. that an -A- guy mentions GF right after you said the -A- super FC wanted to fight a drake/cane fleet with supers, given the opinion they had about entities like PL doing the same.

The DZ6 fight was no doubt a good one, mainly due to the supers not getting involved in the subcap brawl.

[Yoji]

I found it hypocritical.

The DZ6 fight was no doubt a good one.

Its all a mater of size/amount. The DZ6 fight was nice. Lots of maneuvering, pretty evenly matched fleets. It was a test to ones skills as much as fleet composition and numbers.
If we would have dropped 50+/100+ supers on CC and co. i would also have not called it a GF. It would have simple been a grind, where people just try to KM whore. No skill involved what so ever.

A lobotomized gerbil can win when you put him and 50 buddies in titans and have a few competent people flying T3 tacklers.

[Grath]

Dropping a few supers to assist a mixxed subcap fleet is fun. Dropping 100 supers to assist a bunch of tacklers is not. You see the difference?

GUYS GUYS ITS OK WHEN WE DO IT


Suck my dick you hypocritical fucking faggots, jesus christ.

[Yoji]

Suck my dick you hypocritical fucking faggots, jesus christ.

Oh NO, grandpa Grath is of his meds again.

But seriously, cant people count. Cant people see the difference of dropping 10+ supers and 50+ supers.

[ripper van]

dropping 10 titans by PL has been already blamed much by southern guys as blobbing supers. I mean, do it but dont try to justify it and make yourself look stupid.
Its the same as if PL claimed to help underdogs and assisting RA or xxDeath for money in the same time

[zodt]

Since when is 10 titans or 50 supers a large amount?

Did I miss something?

[Endie]

They used to get on so well

"Grath vs Malcanis; Who Broke the Bropact?" More analysis later...

[Stuckenschneider]

You have scaps, you use it however you want. Stop that spacehonour shit.

[Wildside]

confirming PL not playing the game makes the game bether....ca-ching.

[Sentinel Eeex]

BR doc link: http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=3278

I see Unicorns

[progodlegend]

I take full blame for Nulli losing the DZ6 fight today. I slept through my alarm. Guderian logged on, saw a fleet formed with no FC, took over, saw WTF was already in system shooting sbu's, realized he didn't have enough time to get there in BS. Switched to Naga's as quick as he could, burned there without the usual parts that our naga fleet needs (more than 1 warp in, someone keeping our dictors from being idiots, etc.). Guderian gets there, has a good fight anyway, then his internet craps out, he DC's, and dies . Guy who took over (Rahvin I think), didn't do bad at all, so guderian losing internet is no excuse for nulli's lack of performance.

But yea, sorry nulli bro's/gud, my bad . Props to Gud for throwing that shit together in like 5 minutes and getting there in 15.

[Grath]

But seriously, cant people count. Cant people see the difference of dropping 10+ supers and 50+ supers.

Do you need to have me go back and quote some of the posts from when 2-3 titans were camping your station or do you want to do it yourself?

You're doing the same thing, its ok, theres literally nothing wrong with using the weapons at your disposal to do the job you need, nobody, and I mean nobody, will call you out on that ever.

But don't sit here all like its somehow different in any way shape or form, because its not.

[Awatar]

Can we please just enjoy subcaps getting blown up by other subcaps?

[Seymore Graves]

Oh NO, grandpa Grath is of his meds again.

But seriously, cant people count. Cant people see the difference of dropping 10+ supers and 50+ supers.

I feel an irresistible need to point out the fact that you are a stupid faggot.

[tgr]

Can we please just enjoy subcaps getting blown up by other subcaps?

Nein! Das ist verboten!

[awy]

sometimes spaceships is not consensual sex, so it does not have to be good for you too.

[Ymir]

GUYS GUYS ITS OK WHEN WE DO IT


Suck my dick you hypocritical fucking faggots, jesus christ.

You mean like we are faggots for not defending Catch and then we are dumb for not moving away?

[Perseus Kallistratos]

Let's be clear here about what happened in that system:

- CC&co have 150 in system, but it keeps rising during the fight, goes as high as 200 in fleet near the end due to reinforcements
- Nulli has 100 in our new naga snipe concept
- Fight is a sequence of warp-ins - snipe - warp-out on the sbu's/gates
- -A- & S2N ninja drop supers on the station to reinforce it while the smaller S2N fleet plays cat and mouse with the CC&co fleet
- After the station is reffed from under your noses, you engage supers
- S2N naga fleet is partially sacrificed to clear bubbles and tackle from the supers
- Supers jump out
- The south has achieved it's objective, fun was had by all. Sage even gets to tell his fleet that they won because they can loot the field

Now explain to me how we dropped supers to ruin a good fight.


Edit: I see you edited your post so it makes even less sense, whatever

RA has plenty. They just don't give a shit about their pets (even when said pets have field superiority).

[Grath]

You mean like we are faggots for not defending Catch and then we are dumb for not moving away?

You: PL uses Titans to kill good fights

*uses titans against the RA pets*

You: No you see its different because....

[Yoji]

You: PL uses 50+ Titans to kill good fights

*uses 15+ supers against the 250+ RA pets*

You: No you see its different because....

Here fixed it for you.

[Tropic9]

I don't really post here a lot but are you seriously this deluded Yoji?

[Viribus]

Living in the south makes you dumb, it's science fact

[DingDong [banned]]

I take full blame for Nulli losing the DZ6 fight today. I slept through my alarm. Guderian logged on, saw a fleet formed with no FC, took over, saw WTF was already in system shooting sbu's, realized he didn't have enough time to get there in BS. Switched to Naga's as quick as he could, burned there without the usual parts that our naga fleet needs (more than 1 warp in, someone keeping our dictors from being idiots, etc.). Guderian gets there, has a good fight anyway, then his internet craps out, he DC's, and dies . Guy who took over (Rahvin I think), didn't do bad at all, so guderian losing internet is no excuse for nulli's lack of performance.

But yea, sorry nulli bro's/gud, my bad . Props to Gud for throwing that shit together in like 5 minutes and getting there in 15.

We lost but here is all the excuses why.

[tgr]

Living in the south makes you dumb, it's science fact

That explains the SOV welp.

[Apu NahasaPenifapetilon]

I'm bored

[Traakile]

I'm bored

Have you tried EVE:Online? I hear it's a good game.

[Propagandas]

"Grath vs Malcanis; Who Broke the Bropact?" More analysis later...

it was dbrb saving the RAZOR csaas, we all know this alas some refuse to see the truth ((

[Checkbox Poll]

i'm doing my part to mend the bropact

[Ymir]

You: AAA runs from good fights

*logs off in mid fight*

You: No you see its different because....

Thats better.

[Ymir]

Have you tried EVE:Online? I hear it's a good game.

Eve Offline is way better ... trust me.

[progodlegend]

Nulli honor restored, I woke up when my alarm went off today \o/.

http://killboard.nullisecunda.com/?a...d&kll_id=64998

They jumped into us with about 100, and we had 70, and thats how the fight happened. Right as we were killing the last 2 or 3 at a belt after chasing them around, ROL suprise buttsexed our fleet, bridged in, and whore on the last few kills, ruining my killboard report.

DAMN YOU ROL!!!!!!!!!

[Vonqueesha Shenaynay]

Eve Offline is way better ... trust me.

Coming from someone who has spent alot of time recently offline, I can tell you one thing for sure.

This crucible patch has made this game fun again. There's new ships to fly, changes to old ships, people are actually roaming 0.0 again in small gangs... the shit is fun.

[Toasted]

Coming from someone who has spent alot of time recently offline, I can tell you one thing for sure.

This crucible patch has made this game fun again. There's new ships to fly, changes to old ships, people are actually roaming 0.0 again in small gangs... the shit is fun.

Amen m8.

[Centra]

But seriously, cant people count. Cant people see the difference of dropping 10+ supers and 50+ supers.

Blue Steel? Ferrari? La Tigra? They're the same face! Doesn't anybody notice this? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!

[Ron Mexxico]

Coming from someone who has spent alot of time recently offline, I can tell you one thing for sure.

This crucible patch has made this game fun again. There's new ships to fly, changes to old ships, people are actually roaming 0.0 again in small gangs... the shit is fun.

and people camp npc stations in low sec with supers for 24 hours

[Vonqueesha Shenaynay]

and people camp npc stations in low sec with supers for 24 hours

Or how about podding a 500k SP character in a noobship back to Jita you douchebags.






Seriously though, Elo seems p mad. You should tell yoga pants to give him a message and listen to "White Wedding" a few times on repeat.

[July]

Oh NO, grandpa Grath is of his meds again.

But seriously, cant people count. Cant people see the difference of dropping 10+ supers and 50+ supers.

The idea of dropping less supers simply out of adhering to a space samurai code is complete nonsense. Mittani himself during his speech about invading branch berated the thought of doing anything out of e-honour and ~gfs~ was hogwash in the sov game. So I don't quite understand how you can try to complain about PL on this simply because they dropped more titans than you deemed appropriate.

[Lorren Canada]

Hey Nulli, fix you killboard. My browser just crashed three times in a row when I opened that link

[Ron Mexxico]

YOUR HOLY WAR SHALL BE MET WITH FORCE MR VONQ

[Bill Schwartzski]

Here fixed it for you.

I thought the spirit of EVE Online was more in line with real war and not two groups using laser levels?

I've only seen a super once and and even I think you're being weird about this. Grath is so right he's taking drivers licenses away from women.

[thatsthejoke]

Thats better.

PL strategically advances towards WH space in the middle of a fight to PVE some ribbons for their Tengu welps.

They don't run.

[Vonqueesha Shenaynay]

YOUR HOLY WAR SHALL BE MET WITH FORCE MR VONQ

THERE IS NO HOLY WAR RON.

[Ymir]

The idea of dropping less supers simply out of adhering to a space samurai code is complete nonsense. Mittani himself during his speech about invading branch berated the thought of doing anything out of e-honour and ~gfs~ was hogwash in the sov game. So I don't quite understand how you can try to complain about PL on this simply because they dropped more titans than you deemed appropriate.

Blaming PL for using the tools available to them is dumb.. it´s however when they start to bitch about not getting the content they apparently think comes with said tools it starts to get funny.

[Loremaster680]

I dont think anyone can really believe that 3PL tits camping a station are the only ships online and ready. In fact I would bet that if anyone thought that there was only a subcap fleet on standby those 3 tits would have been engaged.

Even if, in reality there was no other PL online and no way for help to come before they died PL has a history of having many, many supers offline and a well thought out and well built subcap fleet on standby (if not more than one) and allies ready if need be. Its a reputation they worked hard for and its well deserved.

As much as it does seem kinda sad that -A- didnt even try to test that reputation nobody can hardly blame them for just assuming that there was far more than meets the eye.

Honestly until PL isnt synonymous with dropping that kind of fleet (and of course having planned out the attack, not just some random pull the trigger jump supers) they aren't likely to get many fights.

[Ron Mexxico]

i don't think they plan out as much as you think broheim. they can respond quick, but not without a lot of crying

[Grath]

Honestly until PL isnt synonymous with dropping that kind of fleet (and of course having planned out the attack, not just some random pull the trigger jump supers) they aren't likely to get many fights.

?

We're currently getting 1-2 fights a day, Goons fought us, NC fought us, Atlas fought us, BoB fought us, IT fought us, TEST fought us, hell even low sec pirates fought us. Its just -A-.

[Loremaster680]

I dont doubt there is a lot of "lets jsut wing it" involved. But they have such a reputtion for planning and executing what look like highly tactical fleets/fights, not to mention they pioneer many fleet doctrines. I doubt people would believe PL if they showed up in system "We threw this 40 man gang together last minute flew in random direction, ended up here and there are no supers/allies/other fleets nearby to help us out and you are the only alliance that we do no spai on.... want to fight?" even if all the above were true.

Was just stating that most of PL's problems with getting non-contract fights is their reputation.

[Loremaster680]

?

We're currently getting 1-2 fights a day, Goons fought us, NC fought us, Atlas fought us, BoB fought us, IT fought us, TEST fought us, hell even low sec pirates fought us. Its just -A-.

How many were contracts? How many legitimately had something to lose? how many didnt have other objectives that they wanted to achieve? I see an aweful lot of you guys on each others killboards for the last few months for there to be no fighting whatsoever between you.

Im not saying that -A- doesnt blueball you on purpose, but what I get from them from these threads is "no point in fighting PL because of Tits, allies, no point, other shit to do." Which may all be a lie, but seeing how they have engaged you in the past, and can see who your allies are, and have made their objectives pretty obvious I dont see how their avoiding you is unexpected, or even the wrong thing for them to do.

[Grath]

Was just stating that most of PL's problems with getting non-contract fights is their reputation.

Generally yea, PL can't just go roam and get a fight, due to having to sit around whoever's space for 2 hours while they think up and fit out the perfect fleet comp that also needs to have 3-4 times our roaming gangs numbers.

BUT

Some of us still go out in 3-5 man groups and then we get fights, without much issue. Last night me and Jeff sat charging 2 hurricanes into a 10-12 man IRC gate camp over and over, they enjoyed killing us, we enjoyed seeing how many we could drop before they took us down.