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    What is the proper degree of pinkie-extension when holding a high-class beverage?

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    Bent right the fuck backwards, mofo.

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    you know when you see things on the internets sometimes you just gotta try it


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    That is literally a hatecrime against good taste. Also looks less like a heart attack and more like a heart holocaust.

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    A pizza crust instead of a plate? Fucking genius. No dishes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aryndel vyst View Post
    A pizza crust instead of a plate? Fucking genius. No dishes.

    The pan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yue View Post
    The pan.
    Make that out of pizza too

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    I don't think tie-dye is intended to speed up gate-jumping... it couldn't really, there's still a limit to how many people you can push through a gate at once. All it really achieves is to slow down the jump graphic and make a few stragglers warp in slowly. It's still 700 people pushing jump all at once. What was more worrying was when we had small engagements on gates while everyone was jumping through, the tie-dye level was nailed to 10% (as low as it goes) and the old lag effects started to kick in a little bit. I'm not sure it's going to be the lag-busting silver-bullet some are hoping for, the inherent none-linearities in lag and the human element (players aren't slowed down, they're still mashing buttons) are probably going to mean 10% is hit quite often, and slow is still frustrating

    But it should make straight up fleet fights fairer (if no less slow), and raise the ceiling considerably to where unintended (unfair) lag effects start. That's the point as far as I understand. Fairness and predictablity


    Quote Originally Posted by Don Peyote View Post
    I'd forgotten what excruciatingly awful memes existed in this game. I'd like to consign "Lemming", along with "can i haz ur stuff" and "go play hello kitty online lol" to Room 101 please Paul
    Didn't want those memes anyway

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    Yup, it's all about making lag land evenly, as opposed to randomly.

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    As a side effect it drastically prefers those who can rapidly reinforce their fleets (along with giving me major headaches when I think about the side effects on time).

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    I think it will be intresting how reinforcements and third parties dropping in will play out in big fleet fights. Let's say the first 5 "game" minutes of a fight take 20 minutes real time, that would create opportunities for anyone intrested to get a cyno chain in place before the fight is decided. Using supers in lag fests when you are not blue to PL will be even more of a coin flip.

    Who am I kidding, no one uses supers except PL and bros.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blazde View Post
    Didn't want those memes anyway
    I don't believe you. "Lemming" was a core element of NC fleets, and as I saw yesterday, it has bested the tests of times. CCP alterting the jump-command certainly was beneficial to the lemming's survival.
    The facts have a strong anti-A- bias.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magere View Post
    As a side effect it drastically prefers those who can rapidly reinforce their fleets (along with giving me major headaches when I think about the side effects on time).
    Exactly this. Gives you plenty of time to re-ship and reinforce before a fight ends. A 1 hour fight running @ 10%

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    As opposed to the 0% it is for one side now...

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    Although the food discussion in here is interesting, and keeps me alternating between salivating and nausea, I'll just add a bit of content in the form of a few Raidendot videos about the current nortern conflict:

    LakeEnds nice Winter War updates:

    Week 1: Mostly us being raped by the Goon horde, so I'm sure it will be popular here:



    Week 2: 10 minutes of fights from the second week of the war:



    My own take on a cinematic motivational (read: propaganda) video:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kesper North View Post
    You fuckers better start fighting us or relieving blueballs via food is going to make me (even) fat(er).
    maybe you are doing something wrong nd you dont get fights.
    Yesterday Hellas formed our typical tier 3 doctrine to find pew pew.There were 3 RDN moons coming out of rf wich i dont even have a clue if they were "important" or not.RDN came with some bombers and triage carriers and opponents never showed.
    After that we went best speed to VFK.250 in local,bubbled the station,kill some dudes that deserved to die and made our way back.We were in worse than usual shape to fight the 150ish "defence" fleets from goons with crap for support.
    On our way back we got dropped by a 60 goon and RZR gang via bridge.As they were warping at the gate to come on us we did something unexpected(stupid greeks as always) and jumped on them.Lost our tackle,2-3 tier 3 and got 15-17 kills left and right.After that ze germans were only a few zumps out and the opponents retreated via branch,since everyone knows they dont do even number fights.Who can blame them?they were metling from hellas from all alliances...ze germans pursuid them into branch and us lazy greeks went back to PF-.Played a bit with our new found toys,those monkey something alliance,drop an even smaller gang via bridge and killed a few of them..
    If you want a fight you can get it.Problem is,you want to do 200 vs 700s and win only because interweb spaceships are too important for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magere View Post
    As a side effect it drastically prefers those who can rapidly reinforce their fleets (along with giving me major headaches when I think about the side effects on time).
    Which lag now doesn't right?

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    In the past it was a dice roll, your reinforcements may load grid, your reinforcements may enjoy a black screen. This gives a reliable mechanism that ensures the fleet gets there and loads grid, and as a side effect drastically slows down the fight. This makes even more time to bring in more dudes and for your allies to show up.

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    More time spent fighting and less staring at a black screen seems like a pretty good thing to me

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    I'm sure some hisec dweeb can manage to construe it into it being a goon plot because Mittens was very positive to it at the start of his CSM term.

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    Is time dilation working on TQ now? If not, when are they planning on turning it on?

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    If it crashes the node again, i'm petitioning any losses. Not that CCP would give a fuck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Traakile View Post
    Is time dilation working on TQ now? If not, when are they planning on turning it on?
    Veritas enables it on some nodes to test it in the wild. The code is deployed but not enabled cluster-wide, due to bugs found in mass tests on sisi.

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    And the occasional "oh hi I see you enabled TiDi let's crash now mmkay".

    But let's not get hung up on minor details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magere View Post
    That is literally a hatecrime against good taste. Also looks less like a heart attack and more like a heart holocaust.
    That shit makes me wanna puke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippo View Post
    If it crashes the node again, i'm petitioning any losses. Not that CCP would give a fuck
    if you loose something in a lagfight, its generally your fault because you are doing the blob in the first line. So CCPs stance in this regard didnt change, even after the introduction of TD.

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    Surely to fuck they shouldn't just be throwing TiDi out there onto random busy nodes without being absolutely sure the code is up to it? Or is this just another typical case of CCP fucktardery?
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    Quote Originally Posted by midi2304 View Post
    Surely to fuck they shouldn't just be throwing TiDi out there onto random busy nodes without being absolutely sure the code is up to it? Or is this just another typical case of CCP fucktardery?

    Bahaha. CCP has a QA dept.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by midi2304 View Post
    Surely to fuck they shouldn't just be throwing TiDi out there onto random busy nodes without being absolutely sure the code is up to it? Or is this just another typical case of CCP fucktardery?
    It's the kind of thing that is pretty much impossible to properly test in the lab or on sisi. And if there's one dev I won't shit on, and god knows I'll happily shit on most of them, it's Veritas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmychrist View Post
    It's the kind of thing that is pretty much impossible to properly test in the lab or on sisi. And if there's one dev I won't shit on, and god knows I'll happily shit on most of them, it's Veritas.
    Not emptyquotan

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgr View Post
    I'm sure some hisec dweeb can manage to construe it into it being a goon plot because Mittens was very positive to it at the start of his CSM term.
    They get worked up when he has eggs for breakfast or puts the trash out so yeah

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmychrist View Post
    It's the kind of thing that is pretty much impossible to properly test in the lab or on sisi.
    Forgive my retardery but why not? Surely some load testing on sisi would iron out 99% of any issues or am I missing something obvious?
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    Quote Originally Posted by midi2304 View Post
    Forgive my retardery but why not? Surely some load testing on sisi would iron out 99% of any issues or am I missing something obvious?
    TEST/Goons/assorted people is the best stress test there is for software. Why spend on something you get for free?
    I mean TEST doing their thing in local equals to a couple supercomputers churning for a day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by midi2304 View Post
    Forgive my retardery but why not? Surely some load testing on sisi would iron out 99% of any issues or am I missing something obvious?
    Having enough people logged in to sisi to test it? Or if there is enough getting all of them to fight?

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    All of the idiosyncrasies and oddball shit that people do usually doesn't show up until after a certain amount of hours. On sisi you're lucky to get a couple thousand man-hours for mass tests. Say no one shows up in a ship with cargo-expanders but that's what makes the whole thing shit the bed. Plus it's not the same hardware, afaik.

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    Quote Originally Posted by midi2304 View Post
    Forgive my retardery but why not? Surely some load testing on sisi would iron out 99% of any issues or am I missing something obvious?
    There are thousands upon thousands variables that could affect something that may not be tested or encoutnered on Sisi. For example it could be possible that TiDi crashes due to someone cycling the ECM Burst module and at the same time spamming jump or something stupid. They did iron out 99% of the issues on SiSi, the stuff left on TQ is what is just hard to replicate without players generating the random events to break it.

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    Or to put it another way: we're very good at breaking shit.

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    You know when tidi is on, there are two clues. The first is a little circle on the top left hand corner, the second is the fucking insistent whining in comms. Tidi shares lag around, which is a little bit fairer but the whinny noises on comms go through the ceiling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Messoroz View Post
    There are thousands upon thousands variables that could affect something that may not be tested or encoutnered on Sisi. For example it could be possible that TiDi crashes due to someone cycling the ECM Burst module and at the same time spamming jump or something stupid. They did iron out 99% of the issues on SiSi, the stuff left on TQ is what is just hard to replicate without players generating the random events to break it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traakile View Post
    TEST/Goons/assorted people is the best stress test there is for software. Why spend on something you get for free?
    I mean TEST doing their thing in local equals to a couple supercomputers churning for a day.
    Garbage in, Garbage out?

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    your posting reminds me of some kind of stephen hawkin crap only that . your not in a wheelchair with voice things . your in a nappy and its full of shit!!!!

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    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Don Peyote again.
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    goons civil war GO

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    FA resetting FCon over slow tech moon transfers, who didn't see this coming?

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    (11:52:23 PM) directorbot: FA has reset FCON for double-dipping money moons, some kind of dispute arising out of the sov handover between FCON and FA. I'm about to head to yoga and I'm not cancelling twisting myself into wacky, sweaty asanas just because of this, so expect FA and FCON to be shooting each other for at least the next two hours until I return to adjudicate. Don't get involved until I order otherwise.


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    grats to fa for having the balls to reset them, now test needs to get in on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Opti View Post
    goons civil war GO
    Finally, the strain between Sigma and Theta proves to be too much. Branch secedes under Theta rule, and both sides dig in for a long fight. Attempts by the other squads to mediate have failed, and border scuffles have broken out in the ratting fields of CCP-. Former brothers-in-posting, HRatli Smirks and MpozoY, find themselves on opposite sides, and with neither side willing to back down, and both having everything to lose, a new chapter, a new Foreverwar, begins this night.


    EDIT : Oh I thought we were writing fan fiction damn you

    Quote Originally Posted by Well done dot View Post
    (11:52:23 PM) directorbot: FA has reset FCON for double-dipping money moons, some kind of dispute arising out of the sov handover between FCON and FA. I'm about to head to yoga and I'm not cancelling twisting myself into wacky, sweaty asanas just because of this, so expect FA and FCON to be shooting each other for at least the next two hours until I return to adjudicate. Don't get involved until I order otherwise.


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    Well, we were long overdue a purging. Let's hope that FCON says something really stupid and gets hellpurged.

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