The South - Not The Thread It Deserves, But The Thread It Needs Right Now

**penifSMASH** · 2011-12-21

Originally Posted by TheYeti

All trolling aside. I'm actually pretty intrested in seeing what is going to happen when PL leaves. It seems like both Ra and the stainwagon will be fighting a 2 way war. With nulli and rol both fighting in omist and period basis. While Ra is fighting up north and in omist.

Evoke will inevitably get bored and fuck off to a different theater and the Southern NAPfest will be able to properly dogpile RA without any opposition

**Some Market Dude** · 2011-12-22

Originally Posted by Grath

I don't know if you've noticed, but the Russians have a habit of watching the back yard burn while they kick the shit out of the guy in the front yard. If I had to guess I'd say that RA will let AAA grind through whatever giving the most minimal resistance to slow them down, the fighting in the north will go one way or another and when its done, the Rus will come back down and liberate the minimum of what they consider theirs.

Agreed. Those central eastern regions seem to basically belong to whichever nominally russian renter empire feels like blobbing and grinding them down that month.

**DurrHurrDurr** · 2011-12-22

Yeah dude Ripper Van, Grath has this tendency to respond to all statements involving PL that he sees with even-handed, stone-cold answers. He's not trolled either, he's demonstrating the fact that you're retarded.

**Grath** · 2011-12-22

Flirt.

**DurrHurrDurr** · 2011-12-22

Yeah I'm full of shit he's mad and from Baltimore.

**ihaveahelmet** · 2011-12-22

More like Madtilmore

**Dragon** · 2011-12-22

Originally Posted by Grath

I feel so fucking bad for Maka, if he's just stop telling all the crazy man lies, he's not a bad FC. Curious to see what he'd do in an alliance with an actual intel set to work with and people that could fly shit that wasn't a drake.

He just needs to let the rage out a little more, I could hear the one guy who was like "i didn't know my mwd was on" and he sounded all indignant and shit when he said it.

I'd have had his ass done in like I was Castro, let it out Makalu, let it out.

Then recruit him?

**ihaveahelmet** · 2011-12-22

Originally Posted by Dragon

Then recruit him?

You first

**Don Peyote** · 2011-12-22

The most terrifying aspect of this whole shebang is that people are fighting over Omist.

Omist

**penifSMASH** · 2011-12-22

Originally Posted by Dragon

Then recruit him?

just wait a year until he's on the shelf next to yaay and all the other special collector's edition FCs

**Manny** · 2011-12-22

Originally Posted by penifSMASH

just wait a year until he's on the shelf next to yaay and all the other special collector's edition FCs

Jeffraider > I don't get why NESW recruits all these FC's from other alliances all of them have been shit and useless.

Me >

Jeffraider > O no not you manny your great .... Ahem.

**Manny** · 2011-12-22

uncomfortable silence.

**Dezzy** · 2011-12-22

wheres the closest y- to lgk? its about that time of year

**jeffraider** · 2011-12-22

Originally Posted by Manny

Jeffraider > I don't get why NESW recruits all these FC's from other alliances all of them have been shit and useless.

Me >

Jeffraider > O no not you manny your great .... Ahem.

Actual quote: "All FCs from other alliances have been dog shit BARRING MANNY"

like a boss

I love manny tho and will stand with him against the hordes of bad posters. Also, he reacted so fast and awesome yesterday my dick burst with pride and love.

**Don Peyote** · 2011-12-22

Originally Posted by Dezzy

wheres the closest y- to lgk? its about that time of year

Welping a super cap fleet to a holder battleship fleet is probably too much ignominy for even PL to bear.

**Dragon** · 2011-12-22

Originally Posted by penifSMASH

just wait a year until he's on the shelf next to yaay and all the other special collector's edition FCs

Or he could walk in the footsteps of Imperian... Join PL, then try to anchor your Tengu and then get trolled out of PL...

**Grath** · 2011-12-22

Originally Posted by Dragon

Or he could walk in the footsteps of Imperian... Join PL, then try to anchor your Tengu and then get trolled out of PL...

I have no words for how bad he is.

**thatsthejoke** · 2011-12-22

Originally Posted by Atticus

Asking AAA to log in their supers is akin to asking MM to log in their supers. Except MM actually did have a giant super cap fight.

They're spineless cowards with no balls. Remember when PL was in Delve/Querious (WITH NO HELP MORONS) during Spring 2011 (Pre fall of the NC)? AAA & Co did not have the balls to log in their supers and still don't. Its the same shit different time of year. There comes a point when expecting something different just means you're insane.

Your alliance would rather rat, create a blue sea of nip, and sell your titans on ebay. Face the facts.

Facts are facts that -A- killed the most supers (with supers) in November 2011. Your post is bullshit, bordering on tears.

Please prove otherwise.

**thatsthejoke** · 2011-12-22

Originally Posted by Grath

They logged in once.

Cost them a titan.

Do we need to bring up the cyno jammer PL 'trap' again? I mean I'm sure you have the Manny version, but ffs do you have any idea how bad his awareness of the system situation was and shit communication skills he showed to his fleetmates?

Hopefully you've trained him up since...

**Hilmar Keller** · 2011-12-22

Also, I find it ironic that somebody from a Tech-holding alliance would bitch that an alliance without Tech does something else for ISK. I mean, it's unthinkable, right?

**Malcore** · 2011-12-22

Originally Posted by thatsthejoke

Do we need to bring up the cyno jammer PL 'trap' again? I mean I'm sure you have the Manny version, but ffs do you have any idea how bad his awareness of the system situation was and shit communication skills he showed to his fleetmates?

Hopefully you've trained him up since...

We don't normally leave him (or anyone else for that matter) alone long enough to make those decisions. A PL FC usually concentrates on 1 aspect of an operation. Manny is usually on the ball with whatever he's doing and is constantly doing something useful. He alone is more useful then practically every person we've recruited in the last year combined.

**Grath** · 2011-12-22

Originally Posted by thatsthejoke

Do we need to bring up the cyno jammer PL 'trap' again? I mean I'm sure you have the Manny version, but ffs do you have any idea how bad his awareness of the system situation was and shit communication skills he showed to his fleetmates?

Not sure if you've been told, but PL is really, really bad, at Sov warfare. All the stupid little rules and whens and when nots are retarded for us, so Manny actually wrote us a To Do list for sov fights, as we were pretty clueless. His situational awareness might have been bad in that fight, but ours was completely absent. If it wasn't for a lot of screaming the nyx would have died.

Also..

Originally Posted by Hilmar Keller

Also, I find it ironic that somebody from a Tech-holding alliance would bitch that an alliance without Tech does something else for ISK. I mean, it's unthinkable, right?

Really not sure if you're serious.

**penifSMASH** · 2011-12-22

I was a Manny hater when he first joined but I've come around and really dig the guy and he's great at what he does.

**Perseus Kallistratos** · 2011-12-22

Originally Posted by ihaveahelmet

You first

Sort wouldn't want to recruit someone that would make him look bad.

**thatsthejoke** · 2011-12-22

Originally Posted by penifSMASH

I was a Manny hater when he first joined but I've come around and really dig the guy and he's great at what he does.

I'm not so much hating on Manny as pointing out there was a pretty good reason you didn't see -A- Supers much when he was FC...

**thatsthejoke** · 2011-12-22

Originally Posted by Malcore

We don't normally leave him (or anyone else for that matter) alone long enough to make those decisions. A PL FC usually concentrates on 1 aspect of an operation.

Fwiw, I agree with this approach to FC'ing. Sadly, it is far too rare.

Manny is usually on the ball with whatever he's doing and is constantly doing something useful. He alone is more useful then practically every person we've recruited in the last year combined.

He's a good guy. With the proper support, a lot of FCs could be improved as well. Something IT did terribly (hi Sort!).

**Dragon** · 2011-12-22

Originally Posted by TrojanMan

Sort wouldn't want to recruit someone that would make him look bad.

If thats true then both you and Maka are more then welcome...

**Grogoth** · 2011-12-22

Originally Posted by thatsthejoke

Do we need to bring up the cyno jammer PL 'trap' again? I mean I'm sure you have the Manny version, but ffs do you have any idea how bad his awareness of the system situation was and shit communication skills he showed to his fleetmates?

Hopefully you've trained him up since...

Do you actually think that manny made a mistake there?

**OMFGBBQWTF** · 2011-12-22

Originally Posted by Dragon

If thats true then both you and Maka are more then welcome...

I've been in fleets lead by NC(dot) and -A- and guess what, they both sucked.

**Ymir** · 2011-12-22

Originally Posted by penifSMASH

I was a Manny hater when he first joined but I've come around and really dig the guy and he's great at what he does.

Yea Manny is a good guy ?

Originally Posted by ihaveahelmet

More like Madtilmore

Touché
have a soft spot for the place since The Wire

**thatsthejoke** · 2011-12-22

Originally Posted by Grogoth

Do you actually think that manny made a mistake there?

Yeah, failing to report the full count of enemy supers (by a large number) and location in system to his fleetmates (also in supers) is something I generally would count as a mistake. Both were known to him at the time. I recall PK being pretty bullshit about it.

Cost -A- the kill and needlessly endangered blue supers.

**Manny** · 2011-12-22

Originally Posted by thatsthejoke

I'm not so much hating on Manny as pointing out there was a pretty good reason you didn't see -A- Supers much when he was FC...

You realize that Op I was literally shit faced hammered right? Im talking a fifth of vodka and a 12 pack hammered.

**Manny** · 2011-12-22

Originally Posted by thatsthejoke

Yeah, failing to report the full count of enemy supers (by a large number) and location in system to his fleetmates (also in supers) is something I generally would count as a mistake. Both were known to him at the time. I recall PK being pretty bullshit about it.

Cost -A- the kill and needlessly endangered blue supers.

You are literally retarded. The system was jammed we knew exactly how many supers were in system. What I had failed to realize is my eyes that were supposed to be watching the cyno jammer disappeared so when the PL supers that were towered up went to our cyno jammer I got no report. Didn't cost -A- shit since you literally brought like 3 supers because playing with supers is dangerous.

**thatsthejoke** · 2011-12-22

Originally Posted by Manny

You realize that Op I was literally shit faced hammered right? Im talking a fifth of vodka and a 12 pack hammered.

Is that supposed to be a point in your favor, or against? I mean Grogoth here thinks you were mistake-free, while you're saying you were trashed...so...

**thatsthejoke** · 2011-12-22

Originally Posted by Manny

You are literally retarded. The system was jammed we knew exactly how many supers were in system. What I had failed to realize is my eyes that were supposed to be watching the cyno jammer disappeared so when the PL supers that were towered up went to our cyno jammer I got no report. Didn't cost -A- shit since you literally brought like 3 supers because playing with supers is dangerous.

I stand by the post as written. My point is your communication to -A- was shit, and you lost track of a large chunk of red supers in your own system.

But yeah, -A- should've brought more supers under those ideal conditions. Especially since you were trashed.

**Murzilka** · 2011-12-22

Originally Posted by jeffraider

I love manny tho and will stand with him against the hordes of bad posters. Also, he reacted so fast and awesome yesterday my dick burst with pride and love.

manny reacted so fast, and awesome yesterday my dick burst with pride and love.

manny reacted so fast, my dick burst with love

manny reacted, my dick burst

Thank you for this.

**Manny** · 2011-12-22

Originally Posted by thatsthejoke

Is that supposed to be a point in your favor, or against? I mean Grogoth here thinks you were mistake-free, while you're saying you were trashed...so...

“A person is under the influence of alcohol when, as a result of drinking any amount of alcohol, his mental or physical faculties are so impaired as to reduce his ability to think and act with ordinary care." Ill. Pattern Jury Instr.-Criminal 23.29 (4th ed.)

http://www.hg.org/article.asp?id=6247

**Aeon221** · 2011-12-22

Originally Posted by thatsthejoke

I stand by the post as written. My point is your communication to -A- was shit, and you lost track of a large chunk of red supers in your own system.

But yeah, -A- should've brought more supers under those ideal conditions. Especially since you were trashed.

If you guys had no confidence in the drunk guy, why was he fcing? And if you had confidence in the drunk guy, why didn't more shit show?

**Grogoth** · 2011-12-22

Originally Posted by thatsthejoke

Yeah, failing to report the full count of enemy supers (by a large number) and location in system to his fleetmates (also in supers) is something I generally would count as a mistake. Both were known to him at the time. I recall PK being pretty bullshit about it.

Cost -A- the kill and needlessly endangered blue supers.

Yeah I don't think you are getting it, do you think that we (PL) just lucked our way into Manny ~fucking up the count~?

**Vile rat** · 2011-12-22

Originally Posted by Manny

You realize that Op I was literally shit faced hammered right? Im talking a fifth of vodka and a 12 pack hammered.

That's not healthy man

**Grogoth** · 2011-12-22

Originally Posted by thatsthejoke

Is that supposed to be a point in your favor, or against? I mean Grogoth here thinks you were mistake-free, while you're saying you were trashed...so...

I didn't say he was mistake free from YOUR point of view, but from what we asked him to do, he completed those objectives to the letter~

**Ron Mexxico** · 2011-12-22

-A- fights more about manny with PL than they do fighting PL spaceships

amirite?

**Murr** · 2011-12-22

Originally Posted by Grath

I have no words for how bad he is.

I understand it tho. You can't really anchor with all that ego floating in between.

**Tappits** · 2011-12-22

Originally Posted by Dragon

Then recruit him?

Pritty shore If he leeroyed at shadoo a few times and lost a few supers trying mad shit he would let him in no troll (look at manny)..... but because he just runs off its not going to happen..... You have to have a spine to get a shadoo vouch even if you got Spina bifida you still have one even if it is all fucked up, but at the moment he is more like an earthworm.

**Perseus Kallistratos** · 2011-12-22

http://a-killed.me/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=586259

Caption: Solo PVP isn't dead!

**Marivauder** · 2011-12-22

Originally Posted by TrojanMan

http://a-killed.me/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=586259

Caption: Solo PVP isn't dead!

And sadly neither are -A-

**Grath** · 2011-12-22

Originally Posted by thatsthejoke

But yeah, -A- should've brought more supers

If they had have brought more supers our nyx would have died, and their side wouldn't have lost a titan, so yes, exactly, their unwillingness to ever commit a single expensive asset to any kind of actual risky situation cost them a kill and a super for their side.

Meanwhile, my willingness to order every safe super who was trapped in that system out of their safe pos, to the enemy tower (where the bridge and jammer was that was allowing them in the system, where they saw our supers and warped off to fight the nyx, so don't stick this shit just on manny, it was a full on failure from a number of pilots), and their willingness to obey the order right when it was given gained us the friendly Nyx safe, and the enemy Avatar dead.

Its only a game man, sometimes you just have to nut up and go for it, it'll still be just a game tomorrow if you Y- it up.

**Elektrea** · 2011-12-22

Originally Posted by thatsthejoke

I'm not so much hating on Manny as pointing out there was a pretty good reason you didn't see -A- Supers much when he was FC...

We saw them a ton more when he was leading that is for sure. He used them ballsy at least 3 times, thats a fuck ton more then anyone else.

**Yoji** · 2011-12-22

Originally Posted by Shadoo

At the end of the day, -A- will survive in Stain and make a comeback. There's no doubt about that.
The days of Evil Thug are long gone, but unfortunately for you -- you are still measured by those standards and in large part that is because you still internally seem to believe you are the -A- of legends. I think it's unfair. Were you measured by your peers like CVA, we'd actually be tipping our hats at you and wishing you well.

Dont think anyone in -A- thinks they are the -A- of 2008-2009. Not really needed to tell them that every single post. Think its more that most (bitter vets) people still think of 2011 -A- being the same as evil thug -A- and still hating them for making their lives miserable. All new players just parrot the mehmeh looking up to the older players.

EDIT:
But you have to give -A- one thing. They have survived and rebound time and time again. And most alliances attacking them have failcascaded in the process.

**Tayler Derden** · 2011-12-22

Im sorry to bring it to you my fellow Kugu posters, but Evil Thug's -A- was also shit.

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