Goonswarm Shrugged - The Gallente Ice Interdiction

**MartCo** · 2011-11-09

Originally Posted by Some Market Dude

I don't buy that. Way more came off the market during the speculative buying than has since been put back on for sale. I doubt Goons have sold much of anything, and the 850-950 slump was all from people who stockpiled beforehand because they're retarded (but lucky) carebears. Now we're going to see goonstocks dominate the area under the nullsec profitability price.

No, most of the goonstocks were sold from 850-950. A lot of goons got lucky and cashed out at around 1200. That was the first wave. Second wave cashed out around 1000. Third wave got stupid nervous as prices slumped below 900 and cashed out around 850. Now all the stupid goons have sold their stocks and price is rising again.

I don't doubt that there are some retards that jumped on the gravy train late (when prices had already rose to 1k) and you'll see them throw stuff on the market, but almost all the goons I know who bought early have sold.

The "missing stocks" you may be referring to is probably the substantial stockpile the alliance itself bought for capitals, logistics, and fuel.

**MartCo** · 2011-11-09

Also, more hilarious pubbie rage:

So I get arkhamina to wardec a corp 21man corp that's been using 3 basilisks, an orca, and a handful of battleships to guard a couple mackinaws in Carirignotin.

These guys then proceed to flip the fuck out.

[17:32:07] Seara Griff > r u fn kiding
[17:32:12] Seara Griff > dush
[17:32:16] Atrum Veneficus > boom
[17:32:27] Seara Griff > we r a 21 man corp and u r 3000+ allnice
[17:32:29] Seara Griff > really
[17:32:29] Atrum Veneficus > got me a hunger for BASILISK
[17:32:33] Seara Griff > fucken dick
[17:32:35] Atrum Veneficus > 6000+
[17:32:38] Seara Griff > Goonswarm Federation has declared war on The Griffin Nest Builder.<br>Within 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
[17:32:39] Atrum Veneficus > to be honest
[17:32:49] Seara Griff > yea honst works hun
[17:32:57] Seara Griff > u cant take us on anyy other way
[17:32:57] MystiqueSonia jr > wow goon just wadec a 20 man corp what pussy
[17:32:58] Atrum Veneficus > just being clear what's going on here
[17:33:09] Seara Griff > is u declared war on us
[17:33:13] Atrum Veneficus > well, if you weren't in ice belts you wouldn't have decc'd
[17:33:23] Atrum Veneficus > so if you want to play with the big boys...
[17:33:27] Seara Griff > i have a right to be her u fucn dick!!
[17:33:34] Atrum Veneficus > my war dec says different
[17:33:36] Seara Griff > oh yea its on
[17:33:44] Seara Griff > u hzve no idea who i am
[17:33:49] Atrum Veneficus > that orca km is going to be sooooo goood
[17:33:50] Seara Griff > i dont play nice
[17:34:14] Seara Griff > so is ur corps all over my 9 year olds kill mall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:36:30] Atrum Veneficus > so at this point you guys should just go play BF3 for a week
[17:36:36] Midi Messiah > Goon pussies! Guys, send me ISK and I will start a fund to create a corp and wardec Goonswarm Federation. It will be costly, so please send at least 10-20mil, but people can then join and hunt these lamerz
[17:36:38] Seara Griff > fuck you
[17:36:41] Atrum Veneficus > because hanging out in the ice belts is pretty suicidal
[17:36:56] Seara Griff > ill jest go to 0.0
[17:37:15] Seara Griff > i can mine all i wont
[17:37:17] Atrum Veneficus > then why didn't you do that to begin with?
[17:37:23] Atrum Veneficus > and saved us both time
[17:38:02] Seara Griff > why dont u go pick on some one your own size
[17:38:16] Seara Griff > and leave us the hell alone
[17:38:21] Midi Messiah > <b>Goons are pussies! Guys, send me ISK and I will start a fund to create a corp and wardec Goonswarm Federation. It will be costly, so please send at least 10-20mil, but people can then join and hunt these lamerz</b>
[17:38:21] Atrum Veneficus > we did
[17:38:25] Atrum Veneficus > they all died
[17:39:34] Atrum Veneficus > oh the 24 hours cannot come soon enough
[17:40:37] Jiggly-juggs Mctitty-boob > i hear the goon are kill innocents again

[17:40:49] Jiggly-juggs Mctitty-boob > m8s we must rise up against the goon, he is an bad!!
[17:41:11] MystiqueSonia jr > lol what ever goon
[17:41:14] Atrum Veneficus > <url=showinfo:1376//591944311>Seara Griff</url> in violation of Goonswarm Executive Order F0F0F0, you are conducting illegal ice mining activities in Gallente space. Your ship is forfeit. All your ice are belong to us.
[17:41:21] Atrum Veneficus > If you are interested in purchasing our Ice Mining Protection Plan™, please convo me for details. Rates as low as 250mil per pilot. Corporation discounts available!
[17:41:45] Gabrel tosh > lol goons tryn to rule empire space
[17:42:01] Jiggly-juggs Mctitty-boob > we cannot let them!! i will fight, come with me now! to deklein!
[17:42:14] Jiggly-juggs Mctitty-boob > i am will kill the goon
[17:42:25] Atrum Veneficus > Nope. Not empire. Not even all of gallente. Just gallente ice belts.

[17:42:56] Seara Griff > fuck u u fuck dush!
[17:42:57] Sinchai N'Bien > you could got 8 jumps to the nearest amarr ice belt and be safe
[17:43:15] Seara Griff > Goonswarm Federation has declared war on The Griffin Nest Builder.<br>Within 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
[17:43:42] Seara Griff > u war deced a 20 man corp u beg of dog crap
[17:43:53] Jiggly-juggs Mctitty-boob > yes u beg of dog crap

[17:44:00] Jiggly-juggs Mctitty-boob > i never have seen such a huge beg of dog crap!
[17:44:01] Seara Griff > whats the ods there like 800 to 1
[17:44:05] Atrum Veneficus > I'm sorry. If I'd known you'd be such a weepy vagina about it I'd have done this months ago.
[17:46:13] Jiggly-juggs Mctitty-boob > m8s the goon have steal our ice, they have steal our flower, but they will not steal our brave!! fite!!
[17:46:47] 00Athus > ^we dnt care
[17:47:33] Atrum Veneficus > So who are you <url=showinfo:1376//591944311>Seara Griff</url> , you said I have no idea who you are, so i'm going to be polite and ask. Just who did I mess with?
[17:47:40] Atrum Veneficus > What EVIL do you have in store for me?
[17:49:00] Seara Griff > im a very angery women who u jest pissed off and thats all you need to know sir, im done speaking to you. Have a nice day and i pray i kill you soon
[17:49:20] Jiggly-juggs Mctitty-boob > you wouldnt like her when shes "angery"
[17:50:34] Atrum Veneficus > An angry woman? Who let you out of the kitchen. More importantly, who taught you how to read and use a computer? Society today.

I also got gagged in local. Probably the weeping vagina comment.

**Weaselior** · 2011-11-09

from eveo:

Attachment 2013

**Some Market Dude** · 2011-11-09

1) I didn't get this far by taking people's word for things, but I appreciate the responses and will take them under consideration as this goes forward.

2) That is some delicious porn. Ty.

**Weaselior** · 2011-11-09

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...maxXh9HK4/edit#

8) Anchor small containers about 75km from any Gallente Ice field. Change their name to, "Goonies go Home", "Resist the Blockade", "Fight for your right to mine in peace." "Losers join the Goonswarm", "Stick it to the Goonies" etc. I'm sure that you can come up with something snappier than I can. You get the point. They are relying on intimidation and propaganda to keep you out of the ice field. Use their own tactic against them. They are acting like fascists. Fascists fail in the face of popular uprising.

you gotta fight

for your right

to iiiiiiiiiiiiice mine

**Bill Schwartzski** · 2011-11-09

Kenneth Lay couldn't have done this with more impunity

**tgr** · 2011-11-09

Uh.

Small containers. With "insulting" slogans for names.

God damn these pubbies are dumb. Next thing you know they'll be talking about voodoo dolls and throwing curses.

**Jovan Geldon** · 2011-11-09

Originally Posted by Weaselior

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1r8mRTxXsAXvgGBV7eeKd_TrE_O09Hb6mjUmaxXh9HK4/

Who the fuck writes this shit, Jesus Christ

Also, the word "goonie" appears THIRTY-FIVE times in that document. Someone has issues.

**xutech** · 2011-11-09

33 is a conspiracy, 35 is a persecution complex.

**Checkbox Poll** · 2011-11-09

Originally Posted by tgr

Uh.

Small containers. With "insulting" slogans for names.

God damn these pubbies are dumb. Next thing you know they'll be talking about voodoo dolls and throwing curses.

hey man the spels worked for lee chanka

**Carlton Banks** · 2011-11-09

Originally Posted by Weaselior

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...maxXh9HK4/edit#

This will spawn Concord to your field making it more difficult to take you out. If someone whines that it is an exploit then tell them "IRL I can smash a window with an alarm to get the cops to come there quicker if I know I'm about to be mugged."

11) DO NOT BELIEVE ANYTHING A GOONIE SAYS.

If you do then what's next? Will they start kamikaze attacks on every indy ship flying into Jita?

**penifSMASH** · 2011-11-10

Your only response to anything a goonie or lackey says should be "ook ook". This is a saying which implies that the previous speaker is weak minded even if they have a tough ship.

lol

**Carlton Banks** · 2011-11-10

ook ook

**Bill Schwartzski** · 2011-11-10

I think I'm going to have my seven year old write an essay on how to fight back against the goons, then we can compare the two and see which author has a better grasp of things.

**DaiTengu** · 2011-11-10

Originally Posted by Carlton Banks

ook ook

The most common words uttered by Tharg the Neanderthal.

**MartCo** · 2011-11-10

So I sold this guy "mining protection" for his two mackinaw pilots at the low, low price of 375 mil isk 3 or 4 days ago.

Today he may have figured out something was awry when my brutix smashed into his mackinaw.

Notice who was included on the mail:

WTF!!!
From: Drunk Ferret
Sent: 2011.11.10 00:35
To: Atrum Veneficus, Genevieve Inouye, Guillaume LeConquerant, Sinchai N'Bien, Skeith Oumis, The Mittani,

What the fuck!!! i am in your blue list. why did your corp (Atrum Veneficus) attack and distroy my ship? I need to be repaid for this loss 150 million isk. I paid for two toons Drunk Ferret and DrunkMongosse

Now imagine this scenario repeating itself once or twice a day across gallente space and you'll begin to understand why we are all smug as fuck.

**July** · 2011-11-10

I'm really hoping that the ice interdiction will end up sporadically switching around to the other regions of space because I assure you that there are Amarr/Caldari ice miners who have no idea what's been going down in gallente ice fields. And those that have moved away/stopped ice mining in gallente space will believe that "the evil goons are gone, it's safe to start ice mining again."

**Traakile** · 2011-11-10

The mind of an iceminer works like this:

10 MINE ICE
20 GOTO 10

All else is irrelevant.

**tgr** · 2011-11-10

Now it's:

10 MINE ICE
20 OH FUCK MY SHIP
30 BUY NEW SHIP
40 MINE IC...OH FUCK MY SHIP
50 RAGE QUIT

**Malaclypse** · 2011-11-10

Originally Posted by Carlton Banks

ook ook

Last time I saw that it was spouted by the Mostly Harmless. Tells you how bad it really is.

**tgr** · 2011-11-10

ook ook ook eek eek eek?

**Jovan Geldon** · 2011-11-10

ook eek oo ah ah ting tang walla walla bing bang

ook ekk oo ah ah ting tang walla walla bang bang

**Traakile** · 2011-11-10

Quality thread, would recommend to a loved one [ ]
What is this, I don't understand anything [x]

**Fix Lag** · 2011-11-11

In Soviet Russia, spambot post YOU!!!

**ripper van** · 2011-11-11

Originally Posted by Fix Lag

In Soviet Russia, spambot post YOU!!!

in soviet russia, worn-out-for-ages jokes make YOU!

**Razzor** · 2011-11-11

Originally Posted by Traakile

Quality thread, would recommend to a loved one [ ]
What is this, I don't understand anything [ ]
Checkbox [x]

ftfy

**tgr** · 2011-11-11

Never not provide checkbox.

**Securitas** · 2011-11-11

[17:38:21] Atrum Veneficus > we did
[17:38:25] Atrum Veneficus > they all died

Haha.

Highsec tears are funny as fuck though.

**Endie** · 2011-11-11

Originally Posted by Ecocrexis

But watch out I would rate them as incredibly stupid but they do get home defense fleets up fairly quickly, mostly pots and pans with the occasional sabre/inty.
Always expect the outgates to be camped if you spend more than 10-15min in a pipe system.

We (Bat Country) head over to IRC space about once a week on average and while they will not engage our 15-17 man mandrake fleets with less than 75 people (no troll it often goes over 100 and they have arguments on their comms about WE HAVE 70 GUYS THEY HAVE 15 WHY DON'T WE JUMP IN FC?!!?) but they are good at scraping those up in 30-40 minutes.

They are also changing gradually by some sort of process of seepage because while those defence gangs still feature like a 25% battleships, 50% BCs and 25% tackle and T2 stuff, they have developed to the extent that they bring masses of ECM drones and a bunch of scorps and falcons as well, which is certainly a pest in a mandrake fleet. We have plans, though, my pretties. If you don't have a cunning plan then at least make sure that any logis are ECCM fit.

On the gtfo aspect you're right that they will merrily camp you in forever but you candance around them. The best time was when we'd done 16 vs 90 and our claymore had burned out its midslots getting out of tackle at the end (with a heroscimi staying on grid, aligned out, until the very last moment). The exit system had half a dozen large T2 bubbles on both gates and we had to pro bump the claymore through them while popping their tackle. Good times.

**Razzor** · 2011-11-11

2011-11-11 02:42:00		Capital, SuperCapitals and FCs	Intrepid Crossing
Hello. Because of multiple recent activities, we need to reiterate IRC Policies on Capital and SuperCapital use. 1 - FCs are able to use carriers at POS shields to delegate fighters and to repair mods. NOT at gates, belts, stations. Violations of this policy may result in the immediate termination of the FC. 2 - SCs, Dreads and Titans are to be deployed ONLY with a HC member present. We understand these are often privately owned, but can dramatically affect our Alliance. We do intend on using Caps and SuperCaps more in the future in combat in both offensive and defensive operations. But once we have had a number of successful Training Ops on the Test Server to ensure the pilots are sufficiently trained in their use. Any questions on this policy can contact me or any HC member. ***** Director

Fun times await

**Ecocrexis** · 2011-11-11

Originally Posted by Endie

We (Bat Country) head over to IRC space about once a week on average and while they will not engage our 15-17 man mandrake fleets with less than 75 people (no troll it often goes over 100 and they have arguments on their comms about WE HAVE 70 GUYS THEY HAVE 15 WHY DON'T WE JUMP IN FC?!!?) but they are good at scraping those up in 30-40 minutes.

They are also changing gradually by some sort of process of seepage because while those defence gangs still feature like a 25% battleships, 50% BCs and 25% tackle and T2 stuff, they have developed to the extent that they bring masses of ECM drones and a bunch of scorps and falcons as well, which is certainly a pest in a mandrake fleet. We have plans, though, my pretties. If you don't have a cunning plan then at least make sure that any logis are ECCM fit.

On the gtfo aspect you're right that they will merrily camp you in forever but you candance around them. The best time was when we'd done 16 vs 90 and our claymore had burned out its midslots getting out of tackle at the end (with a heroscimi staying on grid, aligned out, until the very last moment). The exit system had half a dozen large T2 bubbles on both gates and we had to pro bump the claymore through them while popping their tackle. Good times.

Yeah we had a 25 man cruiser gang head into irc space a while ago to celebrate our move into the testagram. We killed 4-5 bc's before they got up a 150 man fleet to kill us.
We know it was 150 man cause there were 120 in local and all the outgates had serious camps.

**Aurora148** · 2011-11-11

Originally Posted by Razzor

2011-11-11 02:42:00		Capital, SuperCapitals and FCs	Intrepid Crossing
Hello. Because of multiple recent activities, we need to reiterate IRC Policies on Capital and SuperCapital use. 1 - FCs are able to use carriers at POS shields to delegate fighters and to repair mods. NOT at gates, belts, stations. Violations of this policy may result in the immediate termination of the FC. 2 - SCs, Dreads and Titans are to be deployed ONLY with a HC member present. We understand these are often privately owned, but can dramatically affect our Alliance. We do intend on using Caps and SuperCaps more in the future in combat in both offensive and defensive operations. But once we have had a number of successful Training Ops on the Test Server to ensure the pilots are sufficiently trained in their use. Any questions on this policy can contact me or any HC member. ***** Director

Fun times await

how does one train in a supercap on the test server

im confus

**Planetary Genocide** · 2011-11-11

Originally Posted by Ecocrexis

Yeah we had a 25 man cruiser gang head into irc space a while ago to celebrate our move into the testagram. We killed 4-5 bc's before they got up a 150 man fleet to kill us.
We know its was 150 man cause there were 120 in local and all the outgates had serious camps.

So did they kill you?

**MartCo** · 2011-11-12

Oxytopes are up over 1200 now with the supply very very thin. Is this the part where the naysayers have to admit "my bad" yet?

**teds** · 2011-11-12

can one of these rich goons please buy me an archon i mean like you're rich and i'm not and socialism is A-OK! also potato faces fucking owns and i'm banking heavily on that! anywhere in lowsec is ok and also contract to superteds (he's just super!) and yeah that's it thanks in advance xxx

**Jm24** · 2011-11-12

For those not looking at oxy, 1200 is a steal considering no new oxy has hit the market in weeks. All the new orders you see are people rushing in cheaper product from other regions as the price rises. All the large stacks are very old orders so prepare for a wild ride.

**MartCo** · 2011-11-12

I pretty much just want to spend the weekend smugging at everyone who said "stupid goonies can't do this for more than three days."

**MartCo** · 2011-11-12

Also, my funny interdiction story for the day. I get home from work, turn on my monitor, and what do I see, but seven mackinaws, a present just for me.

One smartbombing typhoon later: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=11518635

Turns out, he had paid good old Skeith Oumis 2 billion isk for protection and thought he was safe.

Re: Re: Re: Re: ??
From: raphspidbis
Sent: 2011.11.12 02:27
To: Genevieve Inouye,

I have not just lost almost everything I had!
mining ship destroy its easy
I know that your alliance is + -3000 member is not my reason for putting a small player like me on the carpet.
I know you aite stronger than me!
I pay 200000000isk the contact person told me in the mail which sent a confirmation email to all members of the corp!
I wipe a loss of more than 6 months of games! You find it normal??
because of having trusted you!
+++++++++++++++++++++++++

non j'ai juste perdu , pratiquement tout se que j'avais !!!
détruire des mining barque ses facile
je sais que votre alliance est de +-3000 membre mes se n'est pas une raison pour mettre des petit joueur comme moi sur le tapis .
je sais que vous aite plus fort que moi !!!
j'ai payer 200000000isk la personne de contacte me dit dans le mail quel envoi un mail de confirmation a tout les membre de sa corpo !!!
j'essuie une perte de plus de 6 mois de jeux !!! trouvez vous sa normal ???
a cause de vous avoir fait confiance !!!

Interdiction is the gift that keeps on giving.

**Zakhodit** · 2011-11-12

Originally Posted by Endie

We (Bat Country) head over to IRC space about once a week on average and while they will not engage our 15-17 man mandrake fleets with less than 75 people (no troll it often goes over 100 and they have arguments on their comms about WE HAVE 70 GUYS THEY HAVE 15 WHY DON'T WE JUMP IN FC?!!?) but they are good at scraping those up in 30-40 minutes.

If you put a Hictor in line with the pos in EBYO-S, planet 9 (can't remember moon, in fact it may have moved...) and the station, and just sit on it with your 17 man fleet, you'll pick up 25 kills as the fools who are late to the defense fleet midlessly warp to the POS one at a time. I'd be shocked if it didn't work for three or four days. If it stops working, they've just gone to a different POS. Scan and Adjust as needed for 20 or so more free kills.

Originally Posted by Aurora148

how does one train in a supercap on the test server
im confus

Oh, easy. Once you have the Supercap you just wait 90 days until the test server also reflects this and by then you should have left IRC, now that your realize how pants on head retarted some of their policies are.

**Malcanis** · 2011-11-12

Originally Posted by MartCo

Also, my funny interdiction story for the day. I get home from work, turn on my monitor, and what do I see, but seven mackinaws, a present just for me.

One smartbombing typhoon later: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=11518635

Turns out, he had paid good old Skeith Oumis 2 billion isk for protection and thought he was safe.

Interdiction is the gift that keeps on giving.

I'm guessing this campaign is really going to kick up a notch when proper pod killmails are introduced and you can see the +5 set/michis getting destroyed too

**Fix Lag** · 2011-11-12

ook ook

**Ecocrexis** · 2011-11-12

Originally Posted by Planetary Genocide

So did they kill you?

Yep

**Don Peyote** · 2011-11-12

Originally Posted by MartCo

So I sold this guy "mining protection" for his two mackinaw pilots at the low, low price of 375 mil isk 3 or 4 days ago.

Today he may have figured out something was awry when my brutix smashed into his mackinaw.

Notice who was included on the mail:

Now imagine this scenario repeating itself once or twice a day across gallente space and you'll begin to understand why we are all smug as fuck.

"Oh hey we were going to reimburse but you used the word Toons so no"

**Some Market Dude** · 2011-11-12

Where are all the oxytopes? ROFL

This is now the greatest thing I've ever seen in this game.

I love all the goon-hating, spacehonurable, spacebusiness spacemen of the MD forum who are so bitter they can't even engage the topic coherently.

1) Buying up then tripling (so far) one of the top 20 isk volume items in Jita. When I do market moves I hope for 10%, usually get 5%. 200%+ in a market that can actually absorb capital is absurd.

2) Pricing out an entire POS type.

3) Heavy pressure on Anshars (perhaps priced out for high-traffic jump traders)

If you can't even acknowledge the brilliance and gumption this represents, then you are a ridiculous, wannabe-intellectual, insular circle-jerk.

**tgr** · 2011-11-12

What I particularly love, is how some people have undercut the other guys by 100 isk. 2 sell orders with 2m units each, that's scamming yourself out of 400m isk.

**Lorren Canada** · 2011-11-13

Sup. 50 drunk goons cant decide what to gank on jita 4-4 and fail but 50 drunk b0rts can ~hivemind~

**Rer** · 2011-11-13

Obviously Mittani didn't ~assume direct control~

**Shadowski** · 2011-11-13

23) Start rumors about deceit within Goonswarm, about TEST Alliance setting the Goons up, about some other big Null-Sec alliance orchestrating the fall of Goonswarm. Many TEST pilots are fed up with the goonies and are looking to mix things up as well.

Best one from that linked google doc. Though saying you can kill a global criminal only if your sec status is over +5 is good too....