Mad Max: Beyond ThunderDelve (Oct 2011 - onwards)

[Atticus]

Originally Posted by Agathor
You know Atticus, you could always hunt down PL. I heard they like good fights just like you

I am supportive of the mixing of the legions to help offset the blob that follows DBRB around. T1 Maller duel would be ~elite pvp~

Originally Posted by Malaclypse
Voluntarily recruiting Charle and Vonq does lend some credibility and validity to that point, doesn't it?
No honoUre!

We have suffered set backs in our time, but we have crawled through the mud of bad posting to crest the hill of e-honoure once more.

"Originally Posted by Grim
I sperged about this a while back. The conclusion we reached was really good alliances never fight each other because they are too good and would just keep reshipping into whatever countered the others fleet setup.

When we fly muninns (effectively - mfume is a hero but doesn't count ), PL swap to Abaddons and own our face. We can't fly BS unless we get a bridge onto a bunch of WN super caps and all die in a fire trying to get a Rag to die.

[Checkbox Poll]

The events that occurred on the 1DH undock last night were a real eye opener to me. Here's why:

1. The fleet warped right on the undock and immediately shot blues. There were no hostiles on grid because Grath took care to dock or POS to avoid diplomatic issue. He didn't want us getting shot or to feel like we had to shoot back.
2. This has been the case every time. From us uncloaking and trying to warp off first vs. FA to whenever someone blue to us warps in on the Grathcat fleet on the 1DH undock and isn't in fleet not being shot (unless it's too late because someone didn't check a ticker before shooting).
3. Grath et al really want more people to come and chill. Care has been taken to avoid shitalking and politics during the fleets. With about 15 - 20 more tempests we could alpha the carriers that sit on the undock.

Meanwhile on the other side of the coin aggression is mounting. People are getting all buttmad because we're shooting the common "enemy" instead of shooting PL.
How fucking big does the olive branch need to be before you'll see it? PL left their supers 6 midpoints away (aside from a few logistics titans). PL hazed Bmerc so hard after his VFK fuckup that he sold his characters and quit the game. PL hasn't (yet) tried to catch CFC supers that are grinding sov assets. Hell, I bet if there was significant work together on camping MM into 1DH with PL you'd probably be able to grind through the rest of sov together and maybe get some good fights against Ev0ke because they're the only ones that will come and fight.

tl;dr stop being faggots, be less uptight, embrace the chill

[Perseus Kallistratos]

I sperged about this a while back. The conclusion we reached was really good alliances never fight each other because they are too good and would just keep reshipping into whatever countered the others fleet setup.

Black Legion reship?

[Atticus]

Black Legion reship?

Gila fleet was boss, m8.

[Malaclypse]

3. Grath et al really want more people to come and chill. Care has been taken to avoid shitalking and politics during the fleets. With about 15 - 20 more tempests we could alpha the carriers that sit on the undock.

Getting a tempest down to 1DH as long as I'm forced to be blue to them crappy refugees.

That is, if he doesn't loathe me too much for putting him in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean in a small rubber boat.

[Grim]

Getting a tempest down to 1DH as long as I'm forced to be blue to them crappy refugees.

That is, if he doesn't loathe me too much for putting him in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean in a small rubber boat.

Put some spiders in that boat, and add DBRB for companionship and that avatar will be complete.

[GreenDaemon]

We are too busy with incursions I think. My inbox is flooded with mails about them.

Also, can anyone answer why my alliance is flying drakes again?

[Marivauder]

and add DBRB for companionship and that avatar will be complete.

The boat will sink

[Some Market Dude]

tl;dr stop being faggots, be less uptight, embrace the chill

How long has it been since PL bought you? What was the promised price, Checkbox? When all the Goons are dead you would take your share of the goats?

[Warband]

Actually Munnins are so boss they gank everything... Ask Elo.

[penifSMASH]

The events that occurred on the 1DH undock last night were a real eye opener to me. Here's why:

1. The fleet warped right on the undock and immediately shot blues. There were no hostiles on grid because Grath took care to dock or POS to avoid diplomatic issue. He didn't want us getting shot or to feel like we had to shoot back.
2. This has been the case every time. From us uncloaking and trying to warp off first vs. FA to whenever someone blue to us warps in on the Grathcat fleet on the 1DH undock and isn't in fleet not being shot (unless it's too late because someone didn't check a ticker before shooting).
3. Grath et al really want more people to come and chill. Care has been taken to avoid shitalking and politics during the fleets. With about 15 - 20 more tempests we could alpha the carriers that sit on the undock.

Meanwhile on the other side of the coin aggression is mounting. People are getting all buttmad because we're shooting the common "enemy" instead of shooting PL.
How fucking big does the olive branch need to be before you'll see it? PL left their supers 6 midpoints away (aside from a few logistics titans). PL hazed Bmerc so hard after his VFK fuckup that he sold his characters and quit the game. PL hasn't (yet) tried to catch CFC supers that are grinding sov assets. Hell, I bet if there was significant work together on camping MM into 1DH with PL you'd probably be able to grind through the rest of sov together and maybe get some good fights against Ev0ke because they're the only ones that will come and fight.

tl;dr stop being faggots, be less uptight, embrace the chill

haha look at these fag words from a guy who cares too much

[Lorax]

And yeah... I wasn't happy.

The one with the psybee is better.


eh... shiii... 800

Couldn't have posted it for others viewing pleasure!

Had to go find it myself

Attachment 1973

[Kitty Vintner]

guys I want to hang out with the Capulets

wait wait why are the Montagues stabbing me

[Checkbox Poll]

How long has it been since PL bought you? What was the promised price, Checkbox? When all the Goons are dead you would take your share of the goats?

confirming i'm still mad about boat scamming me and elise has promised me an avatar

[Phey Onat]

If I get a tempest to 1dH can I join the cool kids? Will e-people befriend me?

[Perseus Kallistratos]

We can't fly BS unless we get a bridge onto a bunch of WN super caps and all die in a fire trying to get a Rag to die.

The memories... oh so sweet, and short-lived.

[Manny]

Its pretty funny I'm friends with Rydis and she down right acts like I did something terrible by joining PL. My point is you can be friends with peeps from other spaceguilds. Its all fun to go angry propeller on your enemy but at the end of the day its just people relieving stress by playing a video game. The 1DH camp is just chillin with other peeps talking shit and literally being mortified by Leetcheese links ( I fucking gasped lastnight when I clicked one of his links morbid mofo). I have friends everywhere in literally every space coalition. I will gladly shoot them about it too but it doesn't mean that friendship is marginalized its just playing spaceboats.


CFC dudes let me save you alot of trouble. Eventually your coalition is going to rot and crumble and you will get your shit pushed in. Along the way you will have friends leave and go to different parties and along the way you will push other groups shit in. It happens to literally every alliance every coalition etc. Just enjoy the game and have fun try not to be so uptight. Im sure there are some good people in FA/MM/insertrandomalliancehere however they still are all ripe for the hazing. This isn't some turning dudes to the darkside thing ( even though that's meta as shit) CFC dudes are welcome to come chill and leave politics and grudges at home.

[Fix Lag]

Okay Manny everything's hunky dory if you say so; let me just bend over and rub some lube in there and you can go right ahead and do your thing

[Manny]

Okay Manny everything's hunky dory if you say so; let me just bend over and rub some lube in there and you can go right ahead and do your thing

Wow there is so much to be said to this poast but I think its just a waste of my time. So I will appease you with what you want.

NO U!

[Fix Lag]

Yeah next time someone asks my alliance to just give up and die because that's the way things are supposed to be I'll make a snarkier comment about it then.

[Marivauder]

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[Phey Onat]

They aren't

[Dots]

Randomly posting so my r//p and posts are the same

let me check...

There you are, close enough. At least they share the same digits

[Rer]

Someone rep him damnit D:

[Jm24]

True story, PL let's me shop in 1dh and I don't particularly try to kill them in pr-, but sometimes they suicide cyno baitships or tengus into delvegoons for reasons unknown. People hating on the neutral to each other station camps are stupid. At the end of the day were just trying to hate on morsus mihi, let's all get along

[Kythren]

Randomly posting so my r//p and posts are the same

someone -4 rep him then we have perfect score!

[Manny]

Yeah next time someone asks my alliance to just give up and die because that's the way things are supposed to be I'll make a snarkier comment about it then.

Ok ok I get it I hadn't realized that you were with MM/Br1ck. Now your last post makes more sense. Look dude I don't care if MM/Br1ck lives or dies it literally makes no difference to me. I come to hangout and talk shit with people its just apparently were shooting you.

[Fear]

ts info manny ill come kick it with you

[Fix Lag]

Ok ok I get it I hadn't realized that you were with MM/Br1ck. Now your last post makes more sense. Look dude I don't care if MM/Br1ck lives or dies it literally makes no difference to me. I come to hangout and talk shit with people its just apparently were shooting you.

Nobody tell him.

[Seymore Graves]

Ok ok I get it I hadn't realized that you were with MM/Br1ck. Now your last post makes more sense. Look dude I don't care if MM/Br1ck lives or dies it literally makes no difference to me. I come to hangout and talk shit with people its just apparently were shooting you.

[Atticus]

DelveGoons - nobody respects them, everybody dies to them

[Blazde]

Inclusing Starfleet it will be ~ 20% member loss in a little over a month. In a stable alliance that's not the end of the world, as people come and go depending on fit and circumstances. However, for a mishmash of former NC pets who STILL decided to follow MM in its long, slow slide into sweet oblivion, this is pretty much the tumble before complete collapse.

Most of that 15% is WSHOT who transfered to RAWR and would have joined us directly 2 months earlier if not for problems internal to RAWR at the time (or mainly just reluctance to recruit new corps as always, but some other drama too). That they beared with us, joined BRICK and chilled there for 2 months fighting alongside us instead of fucking off like most would at the apparent rejection is hardly an indication of tumbling into sweet oblivion

[Velonad]

I was thinking about making some snide comment on MM's activity and just realized that PL are going BF3 all the way, all the time

[Some Market Dude]

Most of that 15% is WSHOT who transfered to RAWR and would have joined us directly 2 months earlier if not for problems internal to RAWR at the time (or mainly just reluctance to recruit new corps as always, but some other drama too). That they beared with us, joined BRICK and chilled there for 2 months fighting alongside us instead of fucking off like most would at the apparent rejection is hardly an indication of tumbling into sweet oblivion

You`re mixing up your damage controls here.

[Blazde]

I expected better, really SMD At least give me an in for detailing how it isn't actually poaching corps from allies and how sensitive RAWR has been to that over the years because it only hurts us to weaken our BFF

[penifSMASH]

Guys, MM picked up former IT renters Wrecking Shots. They're not in cascade!

[Blazde]

See penif gets it

[Some Market Dude]

I expected better, really SMD

Seriously, you`re mixing up whom you`re DCing for. Reread your post, it`s honestly a mess of a response to what you quoted.

[Blazde]

A corp moved from BRICK to RAWR. You tried to portray this is as not only a loss for the BRICK/RAWR partnership but also a gain.. wait no... a loss (it makes that little sense I got confused for a moment, sorry) for RAWR. Basically you were just jerking off prematurely at the BRICK member graph on Dotlan, without realising the same people will be in the same fleets fighting the same good/bad/blob/bomber fights as before
I called you out on it

That's what happened

[Some Market Dude]

That's what happened

Nope.

[Malaclypse]

A corp moved from BRICK to RAWR. You tried to portray this is as not only a loss for the BRICK/RAWR partnership but also a gain.. wait no... a loss (it makes that little sense I got confused for a moment, sorry) for RAWR. Basically you were just jerking off prematurely at the BRICK member graph on Dotlan, without realising the same people will be in the same fleets fighting the same good/bad/blob/bomber fights as before
I called you out on it

That's what happened

Brick one month ago had about ~2100 members. Wrecking shots has currently a membership of 206, with small fluctuations over the past month, let's make it 210. 2100 - 210 = 1890. Br1ck currently though has 1770 people, that makes a discrepancy of 120 with another 130 including Starfleet. That's a total of 250.

MM one month ago had about ~2400 (bit hard to tell exactly from the graphs) with a slight but constand decline in members to about 2300 when WSHOT joined you, bringing you up to currently 2501. That means in essence that only roughly 45.65% ((210/(210+250))*100) of the numbers br1ck has lost/is about to lose within a month is actually staying around.
45.65% is not the "most of" and far from "the same people".

Not arguing for and or against a cascade, just delivering some cold spreadsheet numbers fact jerking. And those numbers aren't in support of your thesis at least, Blazde (neither are they flat out supporting SMD's).

[Blazde]

Aye, there's precious few nullsec alliances that haven't lost active members over the last few months. But an exodus of large corps from a coalition is a different matter from a gentle decline of members in line with EVE subscriptions (and I'd really love to see subscription stats for accounts with 0.0 chars seperate from the totals, probably the story is much more dramatic there). Hoping the winter expansion breathes new life into all alliances

[Warband]

Guys, I think you're overreacting, Br1ck is an elite pvp alliance, with epic FC's like nut custard.

Oh wait.

[Flinx]

MM one month ago had about ~2400 (bit hard to tell exactly from the graphs) with a slight but constand decline in members to about 2300 when WSHOT joined you, bringing you up to currently 2501. That means in essence that only roughly 45.65% ((210/(210+250))*100) of the numbers br1ck has lost/is about to lose within a month is actually staying around.
45.65% is not the "most of" and far from "the same people".

Not arguing for and or against a cascade, just delivering some cold spreadsheet numbers fact jerking. And those numbers aren't in support of your thesis at least, Blazde (neither are they flat out supporting SMD's).

Those parenthesis multiplications hurt my head.

My shoddy analysis is that if 200 MM/brick can be camped in a station by 20 guys, then amongst the 90 active, there is a distinct lack of FC's

You only need to lose 5 or 6 people for an alliance to implode if they are the ones running all the fleets, sooner or later the angry guys that like to smack in local from inside a station will eventually turn on each other looking for someone or something to lay blame to.

tl/dr MM fucked, le coup de grâce est waiting on goons

Edit: nut custard, heh beavis he said nut, heheh custard

[Malaclypse]

Those parenthesis multiplications hurt my head.

One of them is actually really just for super-clarity's sake and thus superfluous. Typing 210/(210+250)*100 into your calc will have the same result.

[Starbuck]

Can someone make an "Australian Deathanimal of Doom of the Day" post please? My head hurts like there is no tomorrow and all this fighting about stupid Alliance numbers doesn't help.

[INtarKll]

Those parenthesis multiplications hurt my head.

My shoddy analysis is that if 200 MM/brick can be camped in a station by 20 guys, then amongst the 90 active, there is a distinct lack of FC's

You only need to lose 5 or 6 people for an alliance to implode if they are the ones running all the fleets, sooner or later the angry guys that like to smack in local from inside a station will eventually turn on each other looking for someone or something to lay blame to.

tl/dr MM fucked, le coup de grâce est waiting on goons

Edit: nut custard, heh beavis he said nut, heheh custard

wow you seem pretty bitter that you've been blueballed for so many days straight in 1dh

[Flinx]

I have to get this off my chest, so step back deadly ausie animal number 243

When you are a station huggin faggot, spider repping in a carrier with a 40km dock range not aggressed, there is only one thing that can kill you

So when you fail to see that thing on scan, and then fail to see it land on grid waiting out its warp interference before it locks you, and you fail to see the yellow then red flashing box on your overview

You have absolutely no right to talk about "I win" buttons or overpowered titans because you thought you were sitting in an un-killable ship in dock range while smacking in local

The only reason you got blapped is because YOU WERE NOT PAYING ATTENTION

man that feels better, and I said spider too

Edit: it would appear hiding in a station because you don't have any FC's is now called blue balling despite us killing things everyday, (and dying)

[Fix Lag]

Dear CCP: please fix station games with the winter expansion, TIA

[Fix Lag]

I think that would generate even greater tears from highsec than we have seen from the Gallente Ice Interdiction