Inferno Patch Notes

**Buddahcjcc** · 2012-06-19

Originally Posted by Malcanis

Good, the volume of whining shitposters going on and on and on was getting intolerable.

Yeah but theyll just come here now that kugutsumen isnt filtered anymore

Originally Posted by ihaveahelmet

Hey that's a first!

Not the code related fuckups, the "maybe we should wait" approach.

What the fuck? CCP ACTUALLY QAing their shit?? ACTUALLY TESTING SHIT??
NO WAY
Ill believe it when I see it

**Hilmar Keller** · 2012-06-19

Does anybody know what they fucked up so badly that they didn't go ahead with the release?

Did they nerfbat FW?

**Rer** · 2012-06-19

Originally Posted by Buddahcjcc

Yeah but theyll just come here now that kugutsumen isnt filtered anymore

I'm sure Centra and Marivauder are ecstatic about all the infractions they'll get to throw around.

My neg-rep button was getting lonely anyways.

**Matos** · 2012-06-19

Originally Posted by Rer

I'm sure Centra and Marivauder are ecstatic about all the infractions they'll get to throw around.

My neg-rep button was getting lonely anyways.

Just go to the Delve Thread then

**Sterling86** · 2012-06-25

This looks interesting, its not like the Huginn's high slots were that useful...Also a nice buff to the Golem and ratting carriers.

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**Hilmar Keller** · 2012-06-25

Originally Posted by Sterling86

This looks interesting, its not like the Huginn's high slots were that useful...Also a nice buff to the Golem and ratting carriers.

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E: Augh fuck me it fits on high slots, nvm.

Meta4 painters are still way better though.

**Don Peyote** · 2012-06-25

Originally Posted by Sterling86

This looks interesting, its not like the Huginn's high slots were that useful...Also a nice buff to the Golem and ratting carriers.

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Not sure I agree with that. I thought the point of EVE was that to do something, you have to sacrifice something else - namely, in this case, to paint targets you forego tank/mobility/etc.

That said, wouldn't say no to weapons in all power slots to create 16 gun maelstroms

**ihaveahelmet** · 2012-06-25

Originally Posted by Hilmar Keller

E: Augh fuck me it fits on high slots, nvm.

Meta4 painters are still way better though.

wat

No they aren't, they both have the same stats with the only two differences being the slot used and 9cpu more on the hislot one.

**Don Peyote** · 2012-06-25

Originally Posted by ihaveahelmet

wat

No they aren't, they both have the same stats with the only two differences being the slot used and 9cpu more on the hislot one.

Think he means between meta 4 and t2 midslot

**Hilmar Keller** · 2012-06-25

Meta4 uses half the cap, 9 less CPU (which counts for a lot), costs only half a mil (god only knows what these will cost when they're first released) and more importantly doesn't require Target Painting 5 to use.

**Arrador** · 2012-06-25

Originally Posted by Sterling86

This looks interesting, its not like the Huginn's high slots were that useful...Also a nice buff to the Golem and ratting carriers.

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Buffs to shield tankers. Yes please.

**Viribus** · 2012-06-25

Originally Posted by Don Peyote

Not sure I agree with that. I thought the point of EVE was that to do something, you have to sacrifice something else - namely, in this case, to paint targets you forego tank/mobility/etc.

That said, wouldn't say no to weapons in all power slots to create 16 gun maelstroms

It's still a compromise, you sacrifice utility (in the form of a neut, smartie, whatever) for your TP. They become unique among ewar by being more flexible with what they sacrifice to fit, while still being pretty bad on a per-module basis. people have wanted a buff to torps and TPs for awhile, seems like a good way to kill two birds with one stone and mix up the FOTM at the same time

**Hilmar Keller** · 2012-06-25

Originally Posted by Arrador

Buffs to shield tankers. Yes please.

After the Ancillary Shield Boosters, it doesn't need a buff at all. From all the solo PVP videos I've watched (like a double-Xlarge-fit Maelstrom

) armor tanks are going to need a buff before long.

**Viribus** · 2012-06-25

Local armor tanking needed a buff well before ancils

**Quesa** · 2012-06-25

I'd totally use that on a Huggin in a fleet since my DPS is terribad as it is, might as well drop another tank mod in the mid.

**ihaveahelmet** · 2012-06-25

6 hislot TP huginns with 1 web, prop mod and 4 slot tank aww yea.

**Sterling86** · 2012-06-26

Originally Posted by Don Peyote

Not sure I agree with that. I thought the point of EVE was that to do something, you have to sacrifice something else - namely, in this case, to paint targets you forego tank/mobility/etc.

That said, wouldn't say no to weapons in all power slots to create 16 gun maelstroms

Other thing about it is that it is perfectly in tandem with the dread changes. I agree in that I am not sure how I would feel about it if a version of each of the ewar were made, it would open up a lot of unique fits but could make something like the Domi or Ishatar hilariously unbalanced...maybe reduce the fitting a bit but give it only half the effectiveness of the mid slot version.

**Hilmar Keller** · 2012-06-26

Originally Posted by Sterling86

Other thing about it is that it is perfectly in tandem with the dread changes. I agree in that I am not sure how I would feel about it if a version of each of the ewar were made, it would open up a lot of unique fits but could make something like the Domi or Ishatar hilariously unbalanced...maybe reduce the fitting a bit but give it only half the effectiveness of the mid slot version.

It already requires more CPU, cap and skill to use than midslots, and we have yet to see if it's imbalanced in practice.

**ihaveahelmet** · 2012-06-26

On the other hand, the extra cap and CPU is mostly irrelevant compared to the benefits (more tank/tackle on hulls that usually dont want to sacrifice mids). But since nothing's even been said about them in a devblog and the fact they're not even seeded on SiSi would lead one to believe they're not that important (yet).

**Viribus** · 2012-06-26

I just want torp phoons to be good

**Manfred Hideous** · 2012-07-25

Sort of a necro but it's still germaine to Inferno changes:

I'm really liking the attack frigs. I've only tried the exe and slasher but they were fun to fit and tool around in. Same with the barges. They don't end up being volleyed by null rats but they're not likely to survive the better spawns forever, either. I like them a bit less when taking highsec into account but not enough that I want to see them nerfed. They're not impossible to kill but I doubt a pair of dessies will do it before concord arrives.

Haven't messed with alchemy yet. besides, smarter industrialist minds will do a better job of examining them. I'm just a JoT so take anything I say with a grain of scrub.

**ihaveahelmet** · 2012-07-25

Originally Posted by Manfred Hideous

I'm really liking the attack frigs. I've only tried the exe and slasher but they were fun to fit and tool around in.

I did not try them yet, but looking at their stats, bonuses and fitting options gave me the impression that they were a little too close in performance to combat interceptors and the previously buffed combat frigates. Did you get that feeling at all?

**Manfred Hideous** · 2012-07-25

Originally Posted by ihaveahelmet

I did not try them yet, but looking at their stats, bonuses and fitting options gave me the impression that they were a little too close in performance to combat interceptors and the previously buffed combat frigates. Did you get that feeling at all?

God yes. I set up an arty slasher. My memory sucks but I think I was doing 5 or 6K with heat and I don't think I had any speed mods besides the MWD. Fitting is more generous as well.

Edit:

Decided to check. Bear in mind, that I don't have all level 5 skills. Accell is 3 so there's some room to move up.

The executioner will get to nearly 3300 unheated and almost 4700 overheated. 3500 EHP my fit but as I write this I realized I missed a rig.

The slasher will do 3480 no heat and almost 4960 with heat. Again it'll go faster for all fives. 3100 EHP.

**Themick** · 2012-07-26

Originally Posted by Sterling86

Other thing about it is that it is perfectly in tandem with the dread changes. I agree in that I am not sure how I would feel about it if a version of each of the ewar were made, it would open up a lot of unique fits but could make something like the Domi or Ishatar hilariously unbalanced...maybe reduce the fitting a bit but give it only half the effectiveness of the mid slot version.

Brick tanked scorps with ECM in the highs.....holycrapola. That would own.

**Manfred Hideous** · 2012-07-27

Drone bay changes on sisi. The proc now has 25m, all exhumers have 50m.

I know I suck at getting proper images. Basically, the EHP on this procurer was 38Kish. I managed to almost perma-tank a two large 1 med spawn. In the end, I warped out with 2% shields with 12800 in ore out of a 15000m bay. I likely would have filled it if I didn't mistakenly fit a T1 strip.
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**ein** · 2012-07-27

https://forums.eveonline.com/default...posts&t=137718

Self destructing while aggressed generates a killmail, and modules will now drop just like a normal kill.

**Raketefrau** · 2012-07-28

Originally Posted by ein

https://forums.eveonline.com/default...posts&t=137718

Self destructing while aggressed generates a killmail, and modules will now drop just like a normal kill.

You're not even the person who implemented this change, but you're my new hero anyway.

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