Delve: The Good, the Bad and Marivauders Fucking Ugly

[Securitas]

sorry I couldn't hear you properly with the dozen AIDS-ridden cocks stuffed in your mouth

You don't eat curry with your ears.

[Securitas]

To be fair, you are a faggot.

true story bro

[Elise Randolph]

While I agree that it's pretty dumb to come on here and claim moral victory after being forced off the field, you have to admit, it's mildly retarded to go on for 8 pages or so about how nulli are pussies and refuse to fight and then drop titans, supers, and dreads when they do. You know as well as I do that they won't counter drop without a clear advantage because the cost of a loss is far, far higher for them. Expecting otherwise is a bit delusional.

In fairness, it's a problem of their own making. Calling in 400 people to help shoot SBUs, calling an end to fights for the sake of fighting, and goading Shadoo to take space brings with it consequences. Dunking consequences.

[Tayler Derden]

im not sure what happened here...

Then why you post? Try to start from here. Its not the first time actually, when PL are about to say GF, then some retard open his dirty asswhore mouth...

[UnknownPoster]

Just infracted someone for a "umad" post. Haven't done that in a while. Feels good.

Usually Marivauder is first on the scene for those. My hat is tipped off to you for beating him to the punch.

[DurrHurrDurr]

Usually Marivauder is first on the scene for those. My hat is tipped off to you for beating him to the punch.

Yeah as soon as I heard that there was a fight in Delve I started camping the thread because that cocksucker always gets them first.

[Scotch]

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13637912

HOW BAD DO YOU HAVE TO BE

I feel like I'm in a paradox. :

[Grath]

Dental made a reasoned and thought out post in a sea of angry and spergy rageposting, so it deserves the same consideration in a reply.

It got one, people crying about capitals being used in a fight got tired and played out last year. Nulli were also told that fun and games ended last week when they went all limp dick on us so what comes now isn't for good fights, its for their removal from the area.

[Dental Floss]

What, is this serious?

Fuck you


Dreads, carriers, titans, and supers are combat ships in Eve, thinking anything else means you're kidding yourself. If you can't fight against them you have no place holding space in EVE. Crying when they're used against you is retarded, and generally the behavior of a bitch made faggot.

you really need to become acquainted with weed, bro.

shut up faggot go suck vince's cock some more to bail out your tackled nyxes

sorry, i can't hear you over the sound of mittens's semen bubbling over your lips

[Securitas]

It got one, people crying about capitals being used in a fight got tired and played out last year. Nulli were also told that fun and games ended last week when they went all limp dick on us so what comes now isn't for good fights, its for their removal from the area.

Understood. But it doesn't make them cowards for not wanting to engage the pain train.

I guess the point should be made that it's also more painful for an entity like Nulli to welp since they don't have teats of tech shoving fleets of brand new maelstroms down their throats. Before you say "it's not my fault they're poor/don't have caps," or something...nobody is saying it is PL's fault. But it is an explanation.

[Elo]

Who was FC'ing the PL fleet? If I remember right Grath said he would always escalate because he doesn't enjoy losing. (A perfectly understandable sentiment)

Perhaps it is hypocritical to call your enemies cowards and proceed to drop firepower on them that can't be matched. On the other hand, any other entity in PL's position would likely do the same. If you have it use it.

What do nulli and bro's plan to do with their super's and their dread's if not use them in glorious combat? They've shown before they have the capability to take on PL in a cap fight if the conditions are right. It's always better to lose your ships in an awesome fight than never use them because your waiting for that elusive "perfect moment".

It is just space pixel's after-all, and if it's between saving your supers or losing them in an epic battle that will be remembered for all of EvE history ... well I know which one sounds better to me.

if by by proper conditions you mean I rally my handfull of supers and chain down then lol

[x23]

I thought the winner was the side able to loot the field after the fight. Not that we need the ISK with our reimbursement policy.

[Jean Leaner]

What, is this serious?

Fuck you


Dreads, carriers, titans, and supers are combat ships in Eve, thinking anything else means you're kidding yourself. If you can't fight against them you have no place holding space in EVE. Crying when they're used against you is retarded, and generally the behavior of a bitch made faggot.

Here in the wonderful world of eve we house all the different kinds of people and love them all equally, niggers and hypocrites included, Grath is a perfect example of both a hypocrite and a nigger.

You're giving their space to 99% though.

Thank you for that lovely reaffirmation.

[Solar Fleet Best Fleet]

Well I'm not in a position to know if such an event is possible again Sir Elo, but surely Nulli has other friends with plenty of supers (cough -A- cough)

[Tayler Derden]

if by by proper conditions you mean I rally my handfull of supers and chain down then lol

He also mean titans geting bumped out of the main group.
Which is happening very often btw.

[Nicky D]

It got one, people crying about capitals being used in a fight got tired and played out last year. Nulli were also told that fun and games ended last week when they went all limp dick on us so what comes now isn't for good fights, its for their removal from the area.

Goalpost marked.

[Vik Reddy]

Understood. But it doesn't make them cowards for not wanting to engage the pain train.

Good luck convincing them about that. I wonder what it makes these guys if they have to drop supers and titans (because they can) to beat an even numbered battleship fleet made of bitch-made faggots.

[Securitas]

Good luck convincing them about that. I wonder what it makes these guys if they have to drop supers and titans (because they can) to beat an even numbered battleship fleet made of bitch-made faggots.

It makes them determined to win. I'm not saying PL/TEST are doing anything wrong by blobbing/using caps. To the contrary they are defeating an enemy with full use of available resources. BUT that also means that you can't bitch about people not engaging you.

[Cranky old man]

Also Dear Progod, we will ALWAYS escalate, what kind of retard says he's trying to "prove" that, you fucking mongoloid. Everybody in EVE knows this, how is it you're literally the last detective on the fucking scene?

At last we finally see you guys admit to the hypocrisy. When you first came down into Delve you said you were looking for "gudfites" and to be a neutral third-party picking up good fight opportunities against the two sides that were warring against each other -- us (Nulli) vs. Red Alliance. Nothing wrong with that. Happens all the time. After you took down a Red Alliance Titan and a couple of their supers in the first 36 hours, they withdrew to Querious, leaving just you guys and us. But part of what was supposedly-public knowledge when you first came down for gudfites was that you weren't going to be dropping supers. After RA withdrew, we had a good period of time of good fights against you guys. You did real well the first couple of days and then we started winning our share -- by which I mean winning at least SOME of the battles. Apparently you guys didn't care for that because after about a week or so you went against the no-supers line and started dropping them. If you want to drop supers because that's what your strength is, that's fine, but to act like it's some kind of elite PVP, and to HAVE to do it to avoid losing a fair share of battles, and to do it after saying you weren't going to -- that's kind of weak.

You guys have the superiority in supers. You earned it by having veteran pilots and going out and getting that tech and making a deal with the Goons. No problem, that's all smart stuff and well and good. But I'm not surprised our leadership isn't always eager to engage when you guys can always drop the super card, which we can't match. Yes -- we are poorer than you. We are inferior when it comes to supers and we don't have the tech machine to be okay with losing them. If that means you're better than us -- fine. You're better than us. You're PL. But don't tell me you will "always escalate" when you guys said you weren't even going to be dropping supers at all down here. You want to drop supers to guarantee victory -- that's fine. But don't act like that makes you some kind of great PVP institution. You have other things that do that for you -- and you will be feared because you have that strong super fleet -- but I was more impressed when we were brawling with you guys on the subcap level. You have a tremendous heritage. Dropping supers is fine, but it's not elite PVP.

[Tayler Derden]

Is it some kind of desease? We gota clean up Delve and set a quarantine zone. Let it stay in the south.

[Gallinae]

so whats the excuse for this one? no supers that i can see.

[Elektrea]

from what i see PL/Test had bigger fleet, BS were equal numbers, and PL dropped caps and supers....

PL had 37 rokh/mael on the titan with 6 dreads jumping in. Rest of our numbers was tackle and scimmies. Rest of the BS numbers jumped in with the supers 5 minutes after the fight started.

Also I dare you to quote us claiming elite pvp.

[Grath]

When you first came down into Delve you said you were looking for "gudfites" and to be a neutral third-party picking up good fight opportunities against the two sides that were warring against each other -- us (Nulli) vs. Red Alliance. Nothing wrong with that. Happens all the time. After you took down a Red Alliance Titan and a couple of their supers in the first 36 hours, they withdrew to Querious, leaving just you guys and us. But part of what was supposedly-public knowledge when you first came down for gudfites was that you weren't going to be dropping supers.

And then you called in everybody you knew for a CSAA. Sure, our 1300 man alliance will stick around and fight you, but you were literally told over several posts that the original deal was done, if you can get 500 dudes, you shouldn't care about our supers.

[Muhadin]

Eve is not fun when you fight outnumbering the enemy, but somebody has to do it, PL are taking a bullet for you man, all that boring outnumbering fighting I'm sure it weighs heavy on them.

[Dental Floss]

We are elite pvp.

In your face.

[Jean Leaner]

And then you called in everybody you knew for a CSAA. Sure, our 1300 man alliance will stick around and fight you, but you were literally told over several posts that the original deal was done, if you can get 500 dudes, you shouldn't care about our supers.

It's not us who thought hitting a CSAA wouldn't evoke a blob...

[Grath]

Here Cranky Old Man, i went and found the post for you:

http://www.kugutsumen.com/showthread...l=1#post405564

[Grath]

It's not us who thought hitting a CSAA wouldn't evoke a blob...

So what you're saying is that having 500 dudes is ok but using dreads, triage carriers, and supers isn't?

[Gallinae]

So what you're saying is that having 500 dudes is ok but using dreads, triage carriers, and supers isn't?

I think thats the gist of it.

[Jean Leaner]

Far from it, dreads supers and triage carriers are fine, expecting us to be literally fucking retarded and engage into it when we have no need to just makes you look like a fool.

[Serious Business]

So when are -A- going to unleash their superior super cap fleet to counter the cfc and pl?

oh wait,

its -A-.

[Atticus]

Far from it, dreads supers and triage carriers are fine, expecting to be literally fucking retarded and engage into it when we have no need to just makes you look like a fool.

Guess they'll have to create a need then... like reinforce your csaas and take your sov...

[Krutoj]

[00:32:00] minime92 > <url=showinfo:1373//1789860477>Krutoj</url> you killed me once

the truth is out there

[Jean Leaner]

Meight, just go back a few pages and look at the splurg from when we didnt jump into them AFTER we saved our objective because they took too long to form up.

Also Grath, I think your timeline is a bit off, the CSAA was in may you linked a post from three days ago. If you want to use our CSAA save blob as justification, at least use properly dated posts meight.

[ihaveahelmet]

At last we finally see you guys admit to the hypocrisy. When you first came down into Delve you said you were looking for "gudfites" and to be a neutral third-party picking up good fight opportunities against the two sides that were warring against each other -- us (Nulli) vs. Red Alliance. Nothing wrong with that. Happens all the time. After you took down a Red Alliance Titan and a couple of their supers in the first 36 hours, they withdrew to Querious, leaving just you guys and us. But part of what was supposedly-public knowledge when you first came down for gudfites was that you weren't going to be dropping supers. After RA withdrew, we had a good period of time of good fights against you guys. You did real well the first couple of days and then we started winning our share -- by which I mean winning at least SOME of the battles. Apparently you guys didn't care for that because after about a week or so you went against the no-supers line and started dropping them.

Nulli were also told that fun and games ended last week when they went all limp dick on us so what comes now isn't for good fights, its for their removal from the area. -Grath

If you want to drop supers because that's what your strength is, that's fine, but to act like it's some kind of elite PVP, and to HAVE to do it to avoid losing a fair share of battles, and to do it after saying you weren't going to -- that's kind of weak.[...]But don't act like that makes you some kind of great PVP institution. You have other things that do that for you -- and you will be feared because you have that strong super fleet -- but I was more impressed when we were brawling with you guys on the subcap level. You have a tremendous heritage. Dropping supers is fine, but it's not elite PVP.

We're not the ones claiming to be "elite" or "pvp institution", or at least not without a heavy handed dose of sarcasm.

But don't tell me you will "always escalate" when you guys said you weren't even going to be dropping supers at all down here. You want to drop supers to guarantee victory -- that's fine.

Nulli were also told that fun and games ended last week when they went all limp dick on us so what comes now isn't for good fights, its for their removal from the area. -Grath

Here, let me know if I can answer any more of your concerns.

[Alidean]

Far from it, dreads supers and triage carriers are fine, expecting us to be literally fucking retarded and engage into it when we have no need to just makes you look like a fool.

Is this a concealed "we really dont want this space" comment?

[Tayler Derden]

Its actually very easy to beat PL. You just should shut the fuck up on all forums, including your iternal ones. Stop discussing shit on comms and basicly just get the fuck out of the region.

[Jean Leaner]

Is this a concealed "we really dont want this space" comment?

Yep, you got me.

[Securitas]

Well hats like it or not PL is probably the most 'elite pvp' entity in the game, from the stringent recruitment standards to general wealth to average SP to massive supercap fleet.

Not that that has anything to do with anything.

[DurrHurrDurr]

You guys are forgetting they once purged Providence because of Butter Dog's posting.

Seriously what the fuck are you thinking

[penifSMASH]

At last we finally see you guys admit to the hypocrisy. When you first came down into Delve you said you were looking for "gudfites" and to be a neutral third-party picking up good fight opportunities against the two sides that were warring against each other -- us (Nulli) vs. Red Alliance. Nothing wrong with that. Happens all the time. After you took down a Red Alliance Titan and a couple of their supers in the first 36 hours, they withdrew to Querious, leaving just you guys and us. But part of what was supposedly-public knowledge when you first came down for gudfites was that you weren't going to be dropping supers. After RA withdrew, we had a good period of time of good fights against you guys. You did real well the first couple of days and then we started winning our share -- by which I mean winning at least SOME of the battles. Apparently you guys didn't care for that because after about a week or so you went against the no-supers line and started dropping them. If you want to drop supers because that's what your strength is, that's fine, but to act like it's some kind of elite PVP, and to HAVE to do it to avoid losing a fair share of battles, and to do it after saying you weren't going to -- that's kind of weak.

You guys have the superiority in supers. You earned it by having veteran pilots and going out and getting that tech and making a deal with the Goons. No problem, that's all smart stuff and well and good. But I'm not surprised our leadership isn't always eager to engage when you guys can always drop the super card, which we can't match. Yes -- we are poorer than you. We are inferior when it comes to supers and we don't have the tech machine to be okay with losing them. If that means you're better than us -- fine. You're better than us. You're PL. But don't tell me you will "always escalate" when you guys said you weren't even going to be dropping supers at all down here. You want to drop supers to guarantee victory -- that's fine. But don't act like that makes you some kind of great PVP institution. You have other things that do that for you -- and you will be feared because you have that strong super fleet -- but I was more impressed when we were brawling with you guys on the subcap level. You have a tremendous heritage. Dropping supers is fine, but it's not elite PVP.

it escalated when you used HUN supers (couldn't even risk your own lmao) to kill our dread fleet, knowing our supers weren't in range to counter-drop. up until that point, we were even doing structure grinding in dreads to generate timers. but after that, all bets were off and then we brought our supers (not even all of them, maybe 15%).

but honestly its just cute seeing Nulli justifying that they don't suck (oh they use caps, oh they use supers, oh they use spies). it's the same shit I've seen from every alliance we've niggerstomped in the two years I've been in PL. if you want an even numbers ship-restricted fight go to Amamake or focus on the AT. we'll just keep using superior fleet comps while you bitch and moan in public and in private

[Elektrea]

When you first came down into Delve you said you were looking for "gudfites" and to be a neutral third-party picking up good fight opportunities against the two sides that were warring against each other -- us (Nulli) vs. Red Alliance.

And this is exactly what happened when we came down. RA bowed out and nulli went into panic mode on the forums giving us some great forum porn. Blueballs started happening, forum wars started and you called in the -a- bloc.

Shadoo the other day just said, "sov warfare has started". You guys just warped wrecklessly to 0 because you are desperate for fights because your own fcs were playing risk aversive while heavily outnumbering us for the past 4 days.

Welcome to the big leagues in 0.0, its quite different from fighting the fail fucks you have been for the past 1-2 years isn't it?

[Cranky old man]

And then you called in everybody you knew for a CSAA. Sure, our 1300 man alliance will stick around and fight you, but you were literally told over several posts that the original deal was done, if you can get 500 dudes, you shouldn't care about our supers.

I'm not a leadership-type so we all know I probably shouldn't even be posting here, but I was told that in the Eve community it is considered acceptable to call everybody and their brother to defend a CSAA because of the assets at risk of loss. If that's incorrect, please let me know. In all seriousness I do respect your opinion most of the time :-)

[Elise Randolph]

In your face.

[progodlegend]

So what you're saying is that having 500 dudes is ok but using dreads, triage carriers, and supers isn't?

Last time I checked it was you hitting our CSAA, not the other way around. You were fully aware who would show up if you rf'ed it, and you did it anyway, then whined when they showed up.

[Tayler Derden]

You see poogod, if somebody calling you cocksucker it doesnt mean he whine or mad.

[Cranky old man]

Here Cranky Old Man, i went and found the post for you:

http://www.kugutsumen.com/showthread...l=1#post405564

Okay, so after being down here for a few weeks you changed your mind. I still admired you guys more when we were fighting with subcaps -- I didn't even mind the Test guys fleshing out your fleets because you do have smaller numbers otherwise. But you have to admit anyone is going to be less likely to engage when the most likely outcome is getting supers that you can't match dropped on you. If you guys really want good fights, it seems to me like that is counter-productive. If you're just pissed off and want to wipe us off the map, that's a different story :-)

[Grath]

Also Grath, I think your timeline is a bit off, the CSAA was in may you linked a post from three days ago. If you want to use our CSAA save blob as justification, at least use properly dated posts meight.

I was just linking the most recent event, because suddenly today you guys are all like 'YOU SAID NO SUPERS', but the supers have been here for weeks now so actually acting all butthurt and shocked that they are A) here and B) in use is a little over the top.


So, to be clear on a timeline:

we show up to brawl with you and ra

ra pulls out

we get shit talked in local because we can't pull 200 people in the US tz, and told, literally, to invite TEST.


we do, you cry about that.

you call in every single person (including your enemy at the time RA) to defend a CSAA.

we move in supers the very next day, just a few, and a few titans.

you call on even more help and set up a sweet brawl with Elo where there were supers and titans everywhere and shit blew up.

We moved in a few more supers since you obviously have a line on some help


Maka shows up and you start blue balling every timer that they wont come help you on, you literally dare shadoo to take your space.


We start and now you're crying about that.

[Alidean]

Last time I checked it was you hitting our CSAA, not the other way around. You were fully aware who would show up if you rf'ed it, and you did it anyway, then whined when they showed up.

Last time I checked you said "I think we have said like 18 times that if only we could lose our space we could finally be rid of it." Shouldnt whine when we bring our toys to help you out.

[penifSMASH]

Okay, so after being down here for a few weeks you changed your mind. I still admired you guys more when we were fighting with subcaps -- I didn't even mind the Test guys fleshing out your fleets because you do have smaller numbers otherwise. But you have to admit anyone is going to be less likely to engage when the most likely outcome is getting supers that you can't match dropped on you. If you guys really want good fights, it seems to me like that is counter-productive. If you're just pissed off and want to wipe us off the map, that's a different story :-)

i dont know, man. we got a good fight today. niggerstomped you guys