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    So TDE4 fight happened a bit ago.

    http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=8174

    Killed some ships and took another tech moon

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    One of these days NCdot will get dropped by 60+ Solar supercap and it will be hilarious. (also if the rumors true about black aces, it will be even more fun to watch)
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    Quote Originally Posted by srly View Post
    One of these days NCdot will get dropped by 60+ Solar supercap and it will be hilarious. (also if the rumors true about black aces, it will be even more fun to watch)
    that happened a few days ago.
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    I don't think that Solar miss the target twice in a row
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    Quote Originally Posted by srly View Post
    I don't think that Solar miss the target twice in a row
    Well they did didn't they.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dengen Krastinov View Post
    Well they did didn't they.
    The missed nyx kill was Solars first attempt with a hotdrop afaik.

    e: against NCdot after the drone wars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by srly View Post
    The missed nyx kill was Solars first attempt with a hotdrop afaik.

    e: against NCdot after the drone wars.
    They setup a good trap in our primetime with BR1CK, which was 3 mid points away from were our alliance was living. Solar alone have big balls and can field like 40-50 supers

    However we can field pretty much the same and 20+ titans now they know we are within 1 cyno with titans and supers i doupt you will see that happen for a while.

    A welp is possible for both sides in the respective time zones.

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    It has indeed been a while since we've had the opportunity to witness a massive supercapital welp.
    You guys need to go balls deep into this - those supers itch to be shot at!

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    Quote Originally Posted by StupidNoob View Post
    You mean the guys who have managed to recruit more spy characters in 48 hours then most corps alliances do in a year? Pro choice there NCdot.. Pro choice.
    I once had a corp in NC. called Pro Choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vince Draken View Post
    They setup a good trap in our primetime with BR1CK, which was 3 mid points away from were our alliance was living. Solar alone have big balls and can field like 40-50 supers

    However we can field pretty much the same and 20+ titans now they know we are within 1 cyno with titans and supers i doupt you will see that happen for a while.

    A welp is possible for both sides in the respective time zones.
    Confirming SOLAR has like 3 titans, and they're all levi's.

    Where all the money is going I have no idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solar Fleet Best Fleet View Post
    Confirming SOLAR has like 3 titans, and they're all levi's.

    Where all the money is going I have no idea.
    seen more

    and anyway, sc's make cap fights

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    Solar gunna get raped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artjay View Post
    Reporting live from the trenches big clash in TDE...http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=8169Meanwhile next door Brick intercepts shortbus fleet (who seem to by fighting for NCdot) http://brick.killmail.org/?a=kill_re...ll_id=13730144
    Br1ck eagerly awaits the installation of SONE as the new germinate residents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhisperingTurtle View Post
    Br1ck eagerly awaits the installation of SONE as the new germinate residents.
    I'd just like to clarify that NC. was -5, Etherium residents -10 and SOLAR neutral the last time I checked.
    Therefore we're barely getting "installed" anywhere by any of those entities.
    Even though I didn't really get to log on in the past four days, none of our alliance mails suggests an expanding blue list anyway.

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    We were told we couldn't bomb SONE today even though their tier3 fleet looked so juicy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Setrof View Post
    I'd just like to clarify that NC. was -5, Etherium residents -10 and SOLAR neutral the last time I checked.
    Therefore we're barely getting "installed" anywhere by any of those entities.
    Even though I didn't really get to log on in the past four days, none of our alliance mails suggests an expanding blue list anyway.
    Yes because you were shooting solar in conjunction with NC. for the good fights and the tech ncdot give out.... Get a clue son Geminate is gonna be yours Guristas,anomalies, DED's. You must be excited.
    Also let your FC know armor oracles dont work without scorch and they cant track tengus.

    oh and BL jumped 13 man bomber gang into large acnchored br1ck bubbles. Br1ck only de-cloaked two of them. I nearly cried in the face of br1ck retardation.

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    Lets not act like there isn't plenty of retardation going around in every alliance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhisperingTurtle View Post
    Yes because you were shooting solar in conjunction with NC. for the good fights and the tech ncdot give out.... Get a clue son Geminate is gonna be yours Guristas,anomalies, DED's. You must be excited.
    Also let your FC know armor oracles dont work without scorch and they cant track tengus.

    oh and BL jumped 13 man bomber gang into large acnchored br1ck bubbles. Br1ck only de-cloaked two of them. I nearly cried in the face of br1ck retardation.
    Well, I'm not gonna argue on the matter until I get to log on and find out for myself what the hell is up...
    Though, let's assume you're aright - I myself am still not exactly thrilled by the thought of owning Geminate. You on the other hand appear a little upset even though not a whole lot has happened yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Setrof View Post
    Well, I'm not gonna argue on the matter until I get to log on and find out for myself what the hell is up...
    Though, let's assume you're aright - I myself am still not exactly thrilled by the thought of owning Geminate. You on the other hand appear a little upset even though not a whole lot has happened yet
    Ncdot owning Gem would be bad. No fights we would get blobbed. You being installed as pets. Means endless farming and killmails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VictoryIsOur View Post
    seen more

    and anyway, sc's make cap fights
    if both side got reps to slowdown the death of supers(the tidi gonna be horrible) drones spend 2-5min traveling to the target prob. even with the targets close to eachother, the DDs is whats gonna instantly volly scs. SO while you maybe loose 1-2 sc each 10min depending on if you chooce to go stright for supers or if you chooce to try to clean away the triage carrier fleet first , 20 titans gonna 1 volly 4-5 supers each 10min with DDs while doing sc dps without the travel time of fbs, lacking the reps ofc of a super ofc,(no idea if tidi slows down the cycle timer of DDs but even so its gonna hurt). Since drones and tidi is 2 things that doesnt like eachother.

    It gonna be bloody for sure, but I forsee Nc. fielding a much bigger triage carrier fleet that soaks damage the first critical 20min -30min of the fight, providing enough buffer for the titans dds to tip the balance.
    Solar seems to field 100-200 maelstroms that will rape nc. support prob, but nc. got the advantage in carriers(as meatshield) and titans. As long as they setup around a pos or something similar they can reatreat inside they will prob be fine.+they can always resupply more or less endless support fleet because of tidi. While Supers are much harder to resupply to jump back in of natural reasons:P
    Solar gonna spend too much time getting their fb dps applied to each carrier, because of fb travel time mainly, not because the carriers will last so long:P While NC. can go stright to the buiz of "WINNING the isk war". Also fb dps is gonna be applied more slowly giving the supers more time to react(go back inside shield/try to warp out) whiles DD gives you close to 0 time if applied correctly.

    Solar got a bether chance if its close to no tidi tho, but I dont see that happen:P

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    Dream on WT. You know its more likely they will install renters who will never undock to fight A few jewship ganks with awoxing alts is the best we can hope for. Still, no sov-bills in Akroa \o/
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    Everyone said solar would get raped by legion of xxdeathxx too.

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    Everyone STFU we are getting some awesome fights being in Geminate.

    Well, not me but the guys who are on the wrong side of the world are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mfume View Post
    that happened a few days ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vince Draken View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toasted View Post
    Update: -A- sources are mum on word that the totally eeeleete PvP corp Black Aces received an irresistible offer to join the tech ranks of NC(dot). Black Aces forces consisting of a mighty drake/frig fleet was wiped out moving into Germinate. This fearsome force was met by patrols for Brick and IAC.

    When queried, -A- rank and file pilots wailed in terror at the notion of losing the best corp in the alliance to the scourge that is tech riches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StupidNoob View Post
    You mean the guys who have managed to recruit more spy characters in 48 hours then most corps alliances do in a year? Pro choice there NCdot.. Pro choice.
    Proof Please?!? Didn't think so... Complaints about Aces are highly overrated, noting that MV and Lamfed liked to recriut some of our Euros from our Academy Corp (Guys who didnt have the skills or kills to get into our -A- Corp, and our Rookie pilots that couldnt get into our Academy corp are allowed into Lambchops as full -A- pilots but somehow our recriuting practices are questioned...Lolz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kick View Post
    So TDE4 fight happened a bit ago.

    http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=8174

    Killed some ships and took another tech moon
    http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=8198

    Amended slightly - Since we were very definitely shooting SONE and black legion was told NOT to shoot them I can only assume they are fighting for the tech lords, although maybe they turned up independently to join in the fun.

    As for the unthinkables I am making an assumption that Gypsy Band/Solar invited them since I think (although I have no evidence/actual facts) that they live in gypsy renting space. We were definitely shooting them though when they tried to extract bombers because we saw Starcrash was amongst them.

    If anyone could clarify that would be great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artjay View Post
    http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=8198

    Amended slightly - Since we were very definitely shooting SONE and black legion was told NOT to shoot them I can only assume they are fighting for the tech lords, although maybe they turned up independently to join in the fun.

    As for the unthinkables I am making an assumption that Gypsy Band/Solar invited them since I think (although I have no evidence/actual facts) that they live in gypsy renting space. We were definitely shooting them though when they tried to extract bombers because we saw Starcrash was amongst them.

    If anyone could clarify that would be great.
    Your BR seems to be a little bit off, them 40 bombers (Mixed with like 5 other alliances :-S) were with Solar/Gypsy and were bombing EV0KE every chance they could.

    them dog-net things seem to be doing all sorts of strange stuff as of late i guess it depends on which eve-kill link you decide to feed it.

    For example i just did this one http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=8201 i used http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13730066 to make it. Which actually shows a bit more true then the above linked in terms of wrecks after the fight.

    When the fight started NC. and EV0KE jumped into a Local of 360 dudes most of them waiting to push our shit in as we loaded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vince Draken View Post
    Your BR seems to be a little bit off, them 40 bombers (Mixed with like 5 other alliances :-S) were with Solar/Gypsy and were bombing EV0KE every chance they could.

    them dog-net things seem to be doing all sorts of strange stuff as of late i guess it depends on which eve-kill link you decide to feed it.

    For example i just did this one http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=8201 i used http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13730066 to make it. Which actually shows a bit more true then the above linked in terms of wrecks after the fight.

    When the fight started NC. and EV0KE jumped into a Local of 360 dudes most of them waiting to push our shit in as we loaded.
    Yeah your right after closer examination darkspawn, the predicatbales & why so serious are all wicked creek residents in a bomber wing with the unthinkables, I guess probably FC'ed by someone in gypsy band. Pretty sure that Dark Pheonix Rising fly with SONE though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhisperingTurtle View Post
    oh and BL jumped 13 man bomber gang into large acnchored br1ck bubbles. Br1ck only de-cloaked two of them. I nearly cried in the face of br1ck retardation.
    They killed Chols; who decided to fit an AB on his bomber. This helped our cause.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noobchoicebestchoice View Post
    Confirming Toasted is likely a butthurt -A- fleet commander who shoulda been nicer to his rank and file
    Aaaaaah you found me out. I'm plenty nice to the rank and file but Aces leadership is filled with drama. NC(dot) leadership channels will prove to be an entertaining place very shortly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizuchi View Post
    Everyone said solar would get raped by legion of xxdeathxx too.
    Everyone said SOLAR would lose to LOD's hired guns, PL. In turn everyone said as soon as PL left LOD was fucked. And everyone was right.

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    Well I see no PL here ...

    So I'm not worried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jones Bones View Post
    Everyone said SOLAR would lose to LOD's hired guns, PL. In turn everyone said as soon as PL left LOD was fucked. And everyone was right.
    While no one should under estimate Solar your forgetting the amount of support Solar called in for that fight.

    AAA
    En Garde
    Nulli
    ROL
    SE
    Coven
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    Im sure there are a few major players missing
    Plus ALL their pets

    Not saying that the other side didn't have a crap load of help as well but the major players XX death, RA were incapable of doing anything more than dying in a spectacular fire day in and day out no matter how much assistance they got. At the same time both RA/xx death were in the middle of a fail cascade as well and were in no position to fight anything, on many occasions they didn't even bother to defend or time anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kick View Post
    While no one should under estimate Solar your forgetting the amount of support Solar called in for that fight.

    AAA
    En Garde
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    SE
    Coven
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    Im sure there are a few major players missing
    Plus ALL their pets

    Not saying that the other side didn't have a crap load of help as well but the major players XX death, RA were incapable of doing anything more than dying in a spectacular fire day in and day out no matter how much assistance they got. At the same time both RA/xx death were in the middle of a fail cascade as well and were in no position to fight anything, on many occasions they didn't even bother to defend or time anything.
    Minus brick we weren't involved with LOD Drone war. You are consistantly inaccurate. Although generaly you are correct solar had more backup in drone war. This time I believe they haven't won the fights because of the strength of the alpha loki's more than any other factor. Awesome fleet comp. I believe darkside. pioneered it ?

    Also NCdot just RF'd a brick system in 5 minutes flat we waved on our way back from a roam. o/ goodbye freeport BND

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kick View Post
    While no one should under estimate Solar your forgetting the amount of support Solar called in for that fight.

    AAA
    En Garde
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    Im sure there are a few major players missing
    Plus ALL their pets

    Not saying that the other side didn't have a crap load of help as well but the major players XX death, RA were incapable of doing anything more than dying in a spectacular fire day in and day out no matter how much assistance they got. At the same time both RA/xx death were in the middle of a fail cascade as well and were in no position to fight anything, on many occasions they didn't even bother to defend or time anything.
    think PL/NC. could have kept the ball rolling for quiet a while, and kept it status quo, problem was that we was hired guns, and supposed to help and not do all the work ourself. specially the structure grinding and whatnot.
    add to the top of a lot of less helpfull incidence between ra/xix and Pl/NC that more or less made us think this pointless, the second we leave they will failcalscade anyways.

    just typical incidence would be RA jumping in over and over ,(getting supers caught and then call for help and allies loosing supers in the rescue attempts ) without telling allies before hand or way to ealie even if they agreed to the time scedule plan ealier.
    impossible to communicate with anyone in charge, besides like Krutjo, if you was lucky you would find 1-2 members in a fleet able to speak some english.
    FC/Leadership that got their roles based on social skills(like beeing a girl), remember them loosing their erebus shooting some pos solo and then PL/NC loosing 4 sc or something in the recue attempt, apparently ithe titan pilot was a RL girl which also was in charge of the fittings, turned out she had HG Spure omega rather than Slave omega.

    in the end ra would simply stop bothering to rep anything, time anything and form anything. and would like engage in market jew operation agains its allies (buying all the strong drop boosters for our titan pilots that PL logistic crew seeded at reasonable prices, buy it all up and haul it 4j to their own hq system and reseed it for 5x the price, and then call our logistic guys faggots/You are not needed and that you sux lol, when our directors asked their directors to stop it.)

    I mean their renters like bloodbound and some of the american RA sister alliance(think they was called red legion alliance?) would still try to fight/do sov warfare, but that was more or less the only glimps of hope I ever saw down there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harvey View Post
    Minus brick we weren't involved with LOD Drone war. You are consistantly inaccurate. Although generaly you are correct solar had more backup in drone war. This time I believe they haven't won the fights because of the strength of the alpha loki's more than any other factor. Awesome fleet comp. I believe darkside. pioneered it ?

    Also NCdot just RF'd a brick system in 5 minutes flat we waved on our way back from a roam. o/ goodbye freeport BND
    Would have been done earlier if not for the cleverly named station (1d 5h 59m) which tricktrolled the person who entered it into the tracker system.

    Damn you Scooter, damn you.

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    I really hope both NC. and Solar get a GOOD proper drop into each other where neither side has a massive SCap advantage, but both sides THINK they do. Then we see the rare 6+ hour super cap fight where a ton of super caps die in a fire and both sides are pumped up.

    Why?

    Cause fuck supers!

    Why rly?

    Cause we're due for a fight like this and between TEST/PL vs SoCo and NC. vs Solar I think the latter is more likely to happen with less alliances involved and less people to say 'yeah, damn the torpedos, lets go for it guys!'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banlish View Post
    I really hope both NC. and Solar get a GOOD proper drop into each other where neither side has a massive SCap advantage, but both sides THINK they do. Then we see the rare 6+ hour super cap fight where a ton of super caps die in a fire and both sides are pumped up.

    Why?

    Cause fuck supers!

    Why rly?

    Cause we're due for a fight like this and between TEST/PL vs SoCo and NC. vs Solar I think the latter is more likely to happen with less alliances involved and less people to say 'yeah, damn the torpedos, lets go for it guys!'
    Makes no difference who gets involved in such a fight not too far into it most of the big players in EvE will be in there no matter where it goes down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quesa View Post
    Would have been done earlier if not for the cleverly named station (1d 5h 59m) which tricktrolled the person who entered it into the tracker system.

    Damn you Scooter, damn you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kick View Post
    Makes no difference who gets involved in such a fight not too far into it most of the big players in EvE will be in there no matter where it goes down.
    P much, with 60-70+% tidi the fight gonna last forever , and unless its incredible one sides in terms of support all major power parties in eve will prob be present in some shape or form.
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    http://evemaps.dotlan.net/corp/Black_Aces - and Black Aces left -A-

    and solar lost http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/CFYY-J

    was about 300 vs 600 no real fight from SOLAR...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildside View Post
    P much, with 60-70+% tidi the fight gonna last forever , and unless its incredible one sides in terms of support all major power parties in eve will prob be present in some shape or form.
    Which is precisely why we aren't interested in such a brawl.

    Most of those major powers that would show up would be on the side of NCdot.

    Why can't we just have 1 vs 1 supercap duels like gentleman?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solar Fleet Best Fleet View Post
    Which is precisely why we aren't interested in such a brawl.

    Most of those major powers that would show up would be on the side of NCdot.

    Why can't we just have 1 vs 1 supercap duels like gentleman?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solar Fleet Best Fleet View Post
    Which is precisely why we aren't interested in such a brawl.

    Most of those major powers that would show up would be on the side of NCdot.

    Why can't we just have 1 vs 1 supercap duels like gentleman?

    Not sure how you justify your post.

    NC. Have 2-3 real blues, can you say the same for Solar?

    Far as the 1v1 supercap duels go, anywhere and any time. But this fight would NOT go well for Solar cause while they have a substantial super cap fleet they lack titans. Solars problem will be that they hardly ever use supers and when they do its never in a situation where they could be required to fight with them but more for the odd gank when their enemies don't stand a chance in hell to tackle them or the odds of them losing any are slim to none.

    Besides NC. the only other alliance that uses their supers aggressively in any situation is PL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kick View Post
    Not sure how you justify your post.

    NC. Have 2-3 real blues, can you say the same for Solar?

    Far as the 1v1 supercap duels go, anywhere and any time. But this fight would NOT go well for Solar cause while they have a substantial super cap fleet they lack titans. Solars problem will be that they hardly ever use supers and when they do its never in a situation where they could be required to fight with them but more for the odd gank when their enemies don't stand a chance in hell to tackle them or the odds of them losing any are slim to none.

    Besides NC. the only other alliance that uses their supers aggressively in any situation is PL.
    Oh come on man. Are you seriously trying to tell me that the CFC wouldn't be on your side in a supercap fight against the South? Now add in PL, Evoke, and your own alliance. Yea, that's a force the South has a real nice chance of beating.

    Indeed, you do use your super's a lot more aggressively than we do. Dropping 50 of them on random carriers is GF's and all. Of course, we've also seen how you fit them ...

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    The best part will be to see how battle lines are drawn if pl come around geminate.

    I hate standings, i love the chaos, we should just really assign a place and time and take every supercarrier in the game and go have a 4 hour brawl, then go smoke a cigarette. I don't even smoke cigarettes, but i might after something like that.

    Just think of it like everyone spending 700 dollars(cost of a sc) on a piece of shit car, then going out into the middle of nowhere and crashing 400 of them into eachother crazily.

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    Hmmm...I'm not so sure that the pile-ins on a hypothetical solar v ncDAWT supercap brawl would be that clear-cut.

    People have a lot more to gain strategically from routing ncdawt's supercap fleet, as opposed to just basically shitting on solar's for what amounts to KM's and butt-slapping wololols.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solar Fleet Best Fleet View Post
    Oh come on man. Are you seriously trying to tell me that the CFC wouldn't be on your side in a supercap fight against the South? Now add in PL, Evoke, and your own alliance. Yea, that's a force the South has a real nice chance of beating.

    Indeed, you do use your super's a lot more aggressively than we do. Dropping 50 of them on random carriers is GF's and all. Of course, we've also seen how you fit them ...
    Why would Goons come to help us? Were not big on blobbing and we have no interest in playing with goons unless its to kill them.

    If they did show in such a fight my bet would be they shot us first.

    And the sly remark about our supers used to drop random carriers, let me know the next time Solar or anyone else in this game drops supers on the CFC in their prime time and in their space, or on your coalition when you were all up here with AAA and the gang killing XX death. We knew all your supers were in the area and ready to go, and we knew you far out numbered us in any time zone but we still lit the cyno and jumped in and lost what was it 8-10 supers. And your coalition was still too afraid to jump theirs in even though you had 600 people in sub caps already killing them.

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