Hi PK, watch your blood pressure.Originally Posted by Le'Blob
Hi PK, watch your blood pressure.
And -A- has some of the worst elements of MM and the NC embedded deep within not just its membership, but its very leadership structure. Cancer is contagious and you not only took it in, but promoted it.
You say this like it's not an additional 500 dudes
Yes, let us argue about numbers once again and draw the same half-baked conclusions that have been drawn for years about them
If -A- had better diplomats, and better posters, they wouldn't be in this mess. They don't, and they are. :dealwithit:
Occasional welp = how many fleets of tech 3 ships now? How many bombers have they lost? Losing ships on the undock? Being camped into a single station for your CTAs?
Keep telling yourself that.-A- is best.
Shut the fuck up, Cobra2gay.
Seriously, if AAA wants some lessons on how to build up a proper diplomatic corps lemme know. I'd be happy to help
I have this mental image of -A- leadership sitting in a corner with a laptop open to battleclinic, rocking back and forth like a mental patient while gently stroking the screen and muttering things about rankings and good fights.
I have a feeling reality isn't too far off.
I thought I was having fun in non-compulsory fleets with good FCs who didn't use me as meatshields to prop up their imaginary spacerankings, with the backing of alliances who value their allies, no matter how terrible and nooblish, and show that appreciation with a generous reimbursement program and solid logistics and don't pick my pocket.
I also thought that any alliance in a position of leading a coalition would take command of the situation in the region(s) and offer their valued associated a more solid strategy than ordering everyone to sit in an NPC station surrounded by bubbles and admittedly terrible pilots while their space falls over without any more resistance than alt-shitposting on EO forums and blatantly scrubbed killboards, as long as it's not the master alliance's space that's at risk.
Or at least I thought an outnumbered enemy would order a more coordinated evacuation to their oppressed friends and a defensible, concatenated space to live in than waiting for shit to blow over so maybe everyone can hire Black Frog (on their own dime) in a few months. At least be tenacious and respectable bastards like Wallpapers have been.
Anyway, I'm new to sov warfare. Thanks for correcting me.
k, nulli bros are awesome, and have much respect for them still...
But this was too funny not to post. I have no idea where this came from, and I haven't seen it posted in this thread tmk
http://i.imgur.com/AzJJX.gif
But Makalu's killboard is green (from smartbombing friendlies) so your argument is invalid.
Le'Troll is pretty good, I have to admit.
Whits your problem?
That is fucking brilliant.
Have to agree, very funny.
I think that is the best one yet
I didn't want to, but I laughed. Well done.
True. But you guys are capable of pulling more members, you're just having shitty participation on your CTAs. I wonder why that is?
There is a big difference between having lots of people, and having lots of people who log in and join your fleet. The SoCo has lots of people. Not as many as the CFCHB, but still lots of people. They just aren't organized, and frankly I think many of them see through the bullshit that the shitty -A- FC's spout.
Yup, it's a confidence thing. They pulled 800 people without -A-/Raiden./Initiative there. There's no reason they shouldn't be able to pull relatively even numbers except through a lack of confidence, which is of their own doing.
This is a shit deployment.... SoCo is so shit at killing stuff, i have only made like 400-600mill while been in delve.. i am very unhappy with this fact.....
i am so mad i was thinking of leading my own fleets to try and re balance this hole campaign, and let me tell you about me hating cyno jammers and i have a map of them... this is all.
Unleash the Tappits
Anyone who is deluded enough to believe that -A- cares about sov is absolutely insane. Why would anyone care about sov, given that there are almost no benefits to it, save for giving carebears space to rat? Unlike the NC (Well, CFC/Honeybadgers as they have refashioned themselves), -A- does not need to cater to the carebears in their ranks. Instead, -A- caters to its pvpers giving them extremely target rich environments, where they can shine. This goes hand in hand with piloting skill, as anyone can just take a quick look at eve-kill and see that the top 10 pilots in EVE are all from SoCo or RvB. The simple fact is that blobbers are not skilled pvpers, and the metrics prove that. For reference/posterity:
1. Tauron Torres - Red Alliance
2. Examus - AAA
3. UclanChar - RvB
4. spottington - Red Alliance
5. slasher999 - Cascade Imminent
6. bosonik - RvB
7. Drak Fel - AAA
8. Lee Agaru - AAA
9. Mandelbrot Fracture - RvB
10. Makalu Zarya - AAA
Starting a kickstarter campaign to give Paragon Soul to Wall Treppers and Pangu Coalition.*
Just a rental region for ROL anyway, has like 2 good constellations, and is like the Omist of the deep south (aka it sucks big time.)
* - no I'm really not, but it's what everyone and their fucking brother does these days to get anything accomplished.
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Pangu Coalition
That's funny, because that list is mostly people that I primary in big fleet fights.
Just goes to show that pressing F1 gets you on a bunch of killmails.
Like 4 bil and counting made m888
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Write a song about it.
I don't know if this one has been posted yet so I'll just leave it right here.
http://i.imgur.com/iTeb1.gif
so darkside e.g is bad because they have not so many kills - interesting.
You are unironically comparing -A- to the random pubbies that just throw frigates at each other in RvB?
And, if dying in droves on the 319 undock and welping fleet after fleet of T3s is -A-'s version of "shining," please, shine on you crazy diamonds.
This just in, Spottington, brother of Sirius A and member of Starfleet Enterprises, is one of the best PVPers in the game. You know, the corp that was in Sys-K and IRC, Mostly Harmless and the Delve version of Brick Squad, among others.
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Now now, you are comparing guys who managed to get through the AT X qualifiers...
... to AAA who didn't.
Show some respect.
Congratulations! Your neckbeards like to play this terrible game more than anyone in the game. An accomplishment only worthy of elite pvpers.
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I beg to differ, the majority of the corps in -A- that you say 'don't give a shit about sov each own anywhere from 2 to 8 stations, and most own a few systems they rent out for a cut. AAA has cared about space since it nuked KOS into the ground during the RedSwarmFederation days because it has made them MONEY. Money for supers, money for caps, money for t3's, money for plex, money for RMT(as some former AAA leaders have even admitted), when moons became so fucking over powered AAA began to subscribe to the Russian way of treating it's allies. If you were 'allied' to RA/AAA/XdeathX/Solar it was extremely common for them to say "you can have the space, but we'll just keep those 2 dyspo and 3 prom in it for ourselves."
If you don't know this, you either haven't been paying attention OR you aren't in leadership enough to know this shit. Every alliance is like this however pretty much these days, it's nothing to be ashamed about to want to make cash for your alliance, but don't say '-A- doesn't care about sov' if that's the case they wouldn't retake the same regions time after time and consider them 'theirs'.
Oh really? Yet corp after corp in -A- has it's own 'space' and makes money off it. They aren't all space rich and they sure as hell aren't independently wealthy/aluminum moguls, and last I checked I don't think a single corp in AAA is 100% communist anymore like some BoB/IT corps used to be. So the question is where do the majority of them get their money, yes a good deal could be like me, old as fuck and either making their cash off empire shit, have an alt or two in a wormhole or soemthing along those lines but not everyone in this game is lucky enough to have 10+ accounts. I doubt AAA is the exception to this. The real answer here is that AAA DOES have to cater to it's carebears but since their space is so damn large they can spread them out so they aren't so concentrated so it doesn't look like they care. The rental empire AAA's been sitting on brings in super STUPID amounts of isk. If FAIL was making 100 billion off just querious and AAA is sitting on basically 5 regions worth of space and moons in low sec, curse and such do you really think AAA is doing it for the hell of it? If AAA isn't making upwards of 500 billion a month off all that space, they are truly doing something wrong. Sorry, I can't agree with your statement.
Skilled pvpers vrs people trying to literally kick you out of the space you own. This isn't 'jousting competition 2012' this is being called a war, in a war people long ago gave up the idea that going 1 v 1 dictated the course of a battle. People got together, brought as many people they could and tried to inflict as much damage as possible in the shortest period of time. If you want to believe pvp ability has any barring on this, feel free, it isn't what has been intended and everyone in the CFC/HBC flat out said this wasn't for good fights at the middle of June or so? Instead it's been replaced with 'we are going to take your sov'. If AAA doesn't care about it as you've mentioned, np, take down the TCU's and I-Hubs and you can go PvP without the thing you said you don't care about. If however, you DO continue to fight for it, then I believe your statement is a bit misleading.
Also I don't believe there is any tournament going on for systems, stations, constellations or regions. Nope, I just checked, it's a war not a tourny. And guess what, that's the BEST thing about EVE, you can have 150 million SP's, the BEST ship in in the game with meta level 14 EVERYTHING on it. But if that one 3 week old guy in a god damn rifter gets that one point on you and the little gang he's in fall upon you like a pack of wolves it doesn't fucking matter HOW good you are, or how many skill points you had. I won't lie and say it's TOTALLY worthless but that's war, it isn't meant to be two guys running into battle with each other and the person with the most sp's and experience wins. If it was, then your point would matter, but this is war.
And War, War never changes. - Fallout
Fallout refernce youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2Pt-LnQ2po
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Now it's forced..
Banlish m8, I'm afraid you're getting trolled.
Confirming reason for -A- fighting provi dudes. Gotta get that green.
[ 2013.05.11 03:30:09 ] Jace Vorrin > THEMICK MCCOY SENDS HIS REGARDS :smug:
I realize that this is a bad troll, but I'll bite on the subject.
Kill rankings show almost nothing of your skill. They show how often you play the game, and how good you are at whoring on killmails. Smart bomb your own fleet to get on their killmails errrday.
Secondly, the fact that you want your members to rank highly and encourage (read: require) them to do so hurts the effectiveness of your fleets. Here's a good example; the scimitars in your shitty cowardcats (100mn tengus) fleet. I was looking through some lossmails, and your god damn scimitar pilots put a gun on their scimis (removing a rep) so they can whore on killmails! W.T.F.
From the TEST wiki on scimitar reimbursement: "Do not fit a gun or cloak in the highs, ever. You will be deducted 50% if you do." You mock TEST for being terrible, but they're certainly better than you are.
A post by the one and only Vik Reddy.
In the end the SOV war comes down to the structures and grinding. That means dealing with supers, titans, and dreads. If we kill a thousand man fleet or two, it still means having to deal with that brick wall - blame CCP . CFC is here because they are NIPped with the only other targets they have in the north, and they can't quite grasp what achievement is without taking SOV. Their grunts are finding out now that what they are doing is useless and makes no dent in our morale. It only spurs us on. Even the undocking thing has become nothing more than a gimmick, and they are realizing it. We fight them every day, and Mukk's banana fleet last night is an example of it.
I can assure people that it won't be us staying in Stain and doing nothing. Blood will be spilt. There will be a lot of kill records for a lot of people before this is over.
In all fairness dude, you cant even fit the fourth rep to a mwd scimi, much less stabilize it.
Posting this to leech rep: http://soundcloud.com/sindel-pellion/titan
"I'm on a titanby some TEST shithead - really funny
Thanks...
Welcome to like 5 pages ago dude.
- Thread: Delvolution be ashamed of yourself
2012-07-03 10:16 AM Diotima Saraki
- Thread: Delvolution you thought wrong.
2012-07-11 11:39 AM Diotima Saraki
Hi Florestan!
You can fit a 4th rep in the form of a medium rep; not ideal, but still. The real disadvantage to a KM whoring gun in the 4th high is that you know a hilarious number of obese neckbeards will fat finger the gun key instead of rep, which is pretty dumb.
Yeah, but I rather have a medium then.
The gun is horrible.
A couple days ago a 1 day old pilot from TEST followed orders in a 200 man fleet and tackled Makulu and webbed him while being repped by Scimis and was so happy about it that he was happily shouting on comms about it. I don't know what you think about a newbie friendly environment but this is probably the best you can get as an entry into a new game. Ofc you could be totally obsessed with skillpoints and killboards and alot of green on your killboard by killing those rifter newbies but I liked that moment and it made me smile.
Anyhow that the stats you refer to are from this month only and FCs tend to have high numbers cause they pick the primary, duh. The damage comes from the random rest of the fleet.
Oh I wasnt saying the gun isnt bad, it is. A smartbomb is better than a gun, at least a smartbomb kills ecm drones off.
Holy shit, you know it's bad when Securitas shows up to scrubdumpster you.
I like it how the -a- guys keep saying how good they are at pvp. But still got kicked out of the alliance tournament and Test didn't.
Test * Elite* pvp Best pvp
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