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    Hi everyone,

    You might have seen Arkanon's recent devblog. You might also have been wondering why I have been relatively quiet of late. The reason for that is that I was giving CCP's new IA department a chance to prove itself, like I said I would. We all lost a lot of faith in CCP when T20 was outed as a cheater who abused his privileges, and when CCP tried to swipe it under the carpet, then failed to fire him for it when they had to admit defeat.

    Kieron posted a discussion thread, and in response, I will say this: CCP Internal Affairs has been judged, and it has been found lacking. I have been slowly but surely receiving reports from agents that largely indicate that Arkanon is more or less a sham, who is either a front for restoring their lost legitimacy or who simply carries no weight at CCP aside from writing blogs about witch doctors and what a great guy he is - neither of which should surprise anyone at this point.

    Outing Enslaver as a GM, which we have known about for some time, was largely a test run. I wanted to see for myself, with a high profile case, if Arkanon was the real thing, or if he was what I described in the previous paragraph. It is now clear that he is at best an unknowing front, at worst a calculated public relations and damage control tool. Allow me to make a summary of it, to cut the irrelevant bloat and highlight the important parts:

    Quote Originally Posted by Arkanon
    Kugutsumen is an attention whore!

    He's right about Enslaver being a GM, but Enslaver is not a corrupt GM (trust me on this one guys)

    Enslaver is a good GM and we're glad to have him. (please just trust me)

    Enslaver has a lot of experience playing EVE, and he can fly a Titan.

    It's also a shame to witness the brutal and remorseless personal attacks being carried out on CCP staff members by a select few individuals, these last few weeks. Let's step back for a moment and ask ourselves if we want to become involved in the sordid practice of internet stalking that this campaign has become. Let history judge us from our actions, CCP as well as its accusers.

    All the best,

    Arkanon
    I once made the comparison between EVE and a rigged casino, and I believe that comparison still holds. EVE's playerbase is making CCP a very nice amount of money through their subscription fees, made obvious by their constant company expansions and their recently announced new game. I have made it my job to independently oversee if the game is rigged. When I first made the casino comparison, I said the game was rigged, and I laid out the evidence in support of that statement - and the players were angry. CCP responded very poorly, but in the end, the IA department was a good suggestion, and we allowed them to prove their worth.

    But Arkanon, we are letting history judge your actions, and history is unanimously ruling against you. The IA has thus far proved to be little more than a useless front, and this test run proves that. They can call me an attention whore, they can ban me, they can fail to do anything about their GMs being alliance leaders (and Arkanon, no matter if Enslaver told you his ingame privs were removed, he is still in touch with the LV leadership, and will continue to be), they can do whatever - it's their game. But it's our money they're running it with, and I'm going to make sure the players all know that, and know where the GMs are.

    Call it a crusade, a vendetta, a GM holocaust for all I care - at this point, you've thrown down the gauntlet. CCP just told me and everyone that yes, we know a GM is a top alliance leader, and yes, we know everybody now knows that, but since we enforce our policies as we feel like it instead of when they are breached, we're just going to call you an attention whore and sweep it under the rug.

    Maybe you'll stop deleting or removing characters that are outed as GMs - that's fine, I don't care. My intent is simply to let the players know which alliances and corporations have GMs/devs in them, and which characters they play, so people will know them for the frauds they are, rather than recognizing their dirty "accomplishments". Until you regain our trust and start communicating with us players, something that's getting harder and harder by the minute, I will continue doing what I do, which is letting players know that your game is rigged.

    Same time, new GM, next week. You'll like this one.

    K

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    i'd like to quote Darkon Incensum from kieron's discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Darkon Incensum
    The balance to this game has been put to question. Untill the masses can be convinced that the balance has been restored issues like these will continue to add fuel to the fire. CCP has put together a great game. Their involvement in the game is needed to keep it that way. But when information is provided that and employee has used their position to further their own personal goals in the game, things are going to get ugly.

    Unfortunately, that is exactly what has happened. So, it is not up to the community to put an end to the flames. It is up to CCP to step up to the plate and insure the balance has be restored. This has not happened. So a new spark of information fans the flames once again and the balance, regardless of the truth of the matter, is slipping once again. It will happen again and again untill CCP "gains the trust" of the community once more.

    CCP has some hard choices to make if they are going to put an end to this. Information is power. To control that power CCP should take control of the information this alleged hacker is using against them. Tell us which players are employees. Honesty provides trust. Sure there will probably be some mud slinging and accusations of favoratism if one group of players has more employees then the other. But that will be easier for the community to accept then what is currently happening, imo.

    Good luck to CCP on this monumental goal of regaining the trust of the community. I honestly hope you can do so because I enjoy the game and would hate to see such a thing taint it.

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    Nice one CCP -- policy of deleting (read: renaming) all characters changed to deleting characters that don't yet fly a titan.

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    If you have the information FUCKIN POST IT

    None of this cloak and dagger "oh im so fuckin great" bullshit.

    Post the fuckin information and then maybe CCP can sort this mess out.

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    Nah, one a week to keep CCP in a constant state of turmoil will work just fine.

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    Kug, remind me again which rules The Enslaver broke since his 2 months at CCP? He backed away from alliance politics (his character hadn't been exposed so of course he was still in contact with Shinra/LV high command - he was still in the fucking corp). Arkanon didn't have to investigate anything because nothing needed investigating. You outed the player character of a GM who had broken no rules, so all that needs to be done is his char deleted/renamed/however it works and then life continues as usual.

    This isn't a crusade, this is petty attention seeking. You've run out of real corruption so instead you are going to grief the devs who have done nothing wrong so you stay "popular" and talked about. You public admitted that you were going to reveal a GM's player character every week/month (I forget which) until you get your accounts unbanned. This is not a mission, this is simply blackmail, hurting people who have done nothing wrong.

    As someone who was looking forward to you tackling issues like the bias in ISD moderators, GM inconsistancy and so on this is for me a real let down.

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    I cant wait next week! D:

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Doe View Post
    Kug, remind me again which rules The Enslaver broke since his 2 months at CCP? He backed away from alliance politics (his character hadn't been exposed so of course he was still in contact with Shinra/LV high command - he was still in the fucking corp). Arkanon didn't have to investigate anything because nothing needed investigating. You outed the player character of a GM who had broken no rules, so all that needs to be done is his char deleted/renamed/however it works and then life continues as usual.

    This isn't a crusade, this is petty attention seeking. You've run out of real corruption so instead you are going to grief the devs who have done nothing wrong so you stay "popular" and talked about. You public admitted that you were going to reveal a GM's player character every week/month (I forget which) until you get your accounts unbanned. This is not a mission, this is simply blackmail, hurting people who have done nothing wrong.

    As someone who was looking forward to you tackling issues like the bias in ISD moderators, GM inconsistancy and so on this is for me a real let down.
    You apparently missed the massive ass thread about this matter.
    Try reading

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    You found the corrupt GMS, well done.

    Now stop it. This is pointless. You have turned a good cause into a pointless revenge trip Mulla.

    Please stop it.

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    No, don't stop. Not until CCP gets their act together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titanx3 View Post
    You found the corrupt GMS, well done.

    Now stop it. This is pointless. You have turned a good cause into a pointless revenge trip Mulla.

    Please stop it.
    It's not a pointless revenge trip really, after all, if you catch a kid with his hand in the cookie jar, and the kid promises to never do it again, will you just blindly believe it, or put the cookie jar in plain sight and see whether that hand's gonna go in there again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadCat View Post
    It's not a pointless revenge trip really, after all, if you catch a kid with his hand in the cookie jar, and the kid promises to never do it again, will you just blindly believe it, or put the cookie jar in plain sight and see whether that hand's gonna go in there again?
    What did Enslaver actually do that was wrong on any count? Releasing his identity as a GM was pointless and has set back any goodwill that was given over the exposing of T20.

    If there was actual evidence that he had done something to abuse his power it should've been released and the fact that it hasn't lends creedence to the fact that this was just done out of pettiness. If anything this expose just shown someone who actually did follow the rules and was still punished for it for no good reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enders View Post
    You apparently missed the massive ass thread about this matter.
    Try reading
    I read it. There is nothing in there that states Ens did anything wrong. In fact, kug deliberately picked one like of chat out of the GM Quotes thread to try and tie the whole thing together.

    ?
    [ 2007.01.24 07:32:02 ] GM Sunshine > I'm being told that a member of your corporation came to the POS after I left in a mothership
    When the whole thing was:

    [ 2007.01.24 07:32:02 ] GM Sunshine > I'm being told that a member of your corporation came to the POS after I left in a mothership
    ?[ 2007.01.24 07:32:19 ] GM Sunshine > as in, your member was in the mothership
    Read the entire transcript here: http://www.kugutsumen.com/showpost.p...2&postcount=50. Hell, the fucking GM didn't even know who to speak to in LV. GM Sunshine forgets a dash after "POS" and "left" and suddenly he's in LV. The fact that he realised he wasn't clear on the issue and corrected himself immediately should show this is bollocks.

    Secondly, *if* (which the devs have already admitted he isn't) GM Sunshine, why would Ens be in a mothership when he is LV's primary Titan pilot?

    What else is in that thread you linked to? Ah yes, Enslaver selling his BPOs. CCP announced well before he started to sell them that more would be seeded, and with invention coming, a lot of BPO owners got smart and sold up. The devs have said "invention is the solution to the T2 BPO problem". Hell, if you kept your high priced BPOs after all of that when there was every indication that the BPO and T2 module prices were going to crash, you probably didn't deserve those BPOs in the first place.

    Finally, constellation sov. This has been pushed back and back so much that nobody knows what it is going to entail. Would you plan outpost building around a system that doesn't exist yet?

    Also, Kug conviniently left out the dates of the The Enslaver posts. Seeing as he made such a fuss over them with the RKK threads it seems to me as if he is trying to hide something. Hell, maybe they were from before his employment at CCP started?


    So, what did The Enslaver do wrong?

    Also, get the dates of when The Enslaver sold his T2 BPOs. If it was 2006, you can call complete bullshit on him using inside information. 2007, and the affects of invention have already begun to impact on T2 module prices and anyone smart would've sold up before the massive crashes.

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    It's pretty obvious to me that The Enslaver did nothing wrong. I have no problem with corruption being outed at CCP, but I don't wanna see people who work at CCP being outed just because they work there.

    Kug did a good job exposing the corruption at CCP and of T20 but I'm hoping that Kug doesnt go off the deep end here and turning it into a full blown vendetta where he makes up the evidence and throws enough mud in the hope some sticks.

    If you have evidence of corruption or severe conflict of interest then please expose it, but don't fuck over people at CCP simply because they work there, after all it was the upper management there that screwed the pooch, not the general workforce.

    Having said that, I will keep checking this site for more info

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    why are you guys so surprised that he revealed the enslaver

    he said that he would reveal one gm/dev a month (now a week i guess), not one corrupt gm/dev

    he's doing exactly what he said he would do and i think it's great that he's sticking to his guns instead of giving up

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    Quote Originally Posted by goonygoon View Post
    why are you guys so surprised that he revealed the enslaver

    he said that he would reveal one gm/dev a month (now a week i guess), not one corrupt gm/dev

    he's doing exactly what he said he would do and i think it's great that he's sticking to his guns instead of giving up
    Sorry but thats a bunch of bullshit.

    By all means keep exposing ANY and ALL corruption that you can find (by legal means) but to "out" someone knowing that the reaction of the community would be the same as the T20 incident is totally wrong IMO.

    You have just trashed one persons work on chars for over 3 years I really hope you are proud of yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goonygoon View Post
    why are you guys so surprised that he revealed the enslaver

    he said that he would reveal one gm/dev a month (now a week i guess), not one corrupt gm/dev

    he's doing exactly what he said he would do and i think it's great that he's sticking to his guns instead of giving up
    Then you need to ask yourself, what is the point? Kug claims to be giving IA a chance to prove itself, and he does this by outing characters who have done nothing wrong?

    It's bullshit and you know it.

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    How exactly Arkanon have been proved unworthy of his role ?
    What proofs have you got to back that up ?
    And what is accusation concerning Enslaver ? From all the convo I have read on YOUR website, he seems like a decent guy actualy, and you look like the bastard, while you are claiming the other way round.

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    Hello, I don't want a GM leading a corp or alliance.

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    The problem CCP faces is that kugutsumen is a man of his word.

    He uncovered the dev corruption, CCP said they'd talk and investigate. Their result? Banning kugutsumen's accounts without warning even after he promised them to keep his site closed to the public until the investigations were completed. The investigation? bullshit, nothing happened to t20.

    In response to them breaking their word he promised he'd reveal 1 GM a month until their decision was reversed or indefinitely, he did not say 1 corrupt GM just 1 GM. CCP knew what the consequences of their actions would be and they followed through with them anyway, crying about how he's sticking to his promises is absurd and I enjoy watching them squirm.

    I must agree though this trying to allude to corruption where there is none is not a positive thing, just sticking to your promises is enough.

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    T20 had already been punished. He had done nothing wrong since so there was no reason to punish him again. Hell, he came out and admitted that he was caught cheating which basically ruined his reputation as a dev (I'm not saying I feel sorry for him).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baroti View Post
    Hello, I don't want a GM leading a corp or alliance.

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    Enslaver wasn't leading Shinra, and he wasn't leading LV. As has been said many times before, he stepped back from corp and alliance politics completely when he took the GM role. Besides, LV are about to get wiped off the map so it's not really much of a problem

    As for him being a Titan pilot, he was one of the most loyal members in Shinra and had the skills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekumi View Post
    What did Enslaver actually do that was wrong on any count? Releasing his identity as a GM was pointless and has set back any goodwill that was given over the exposing of T20.

    If there was actual evidence that he had done something to abuse his power it should've been released and the fact that it hasn't lends creedence to the fact that this was just done out of pettiness. If anything this expose just shown someone who actually did follow the rules and was still punished for it for no good reason.
    Abuse of power is one cause. This, however, is another. After t20's outing, do you really trust CCP? Can you really say that a GM playing "in secret" is a good idea?

    Any other MMO I've been in, GM's don't -have- player characters. Perhaps that was for a reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Doe View Post
    Enslaver wasn't leading Shinra, and he wasn't leading LV. As has been said many times before, he stepped back from corp and alliance politics completely when he took the GM role. Besides, LV are about to get wiped off the map so it's not really much of a problem

    As for him being a Titan pilot, he was one of the most loyal members in Shinra and had the skills.
    Listen, Enslaver was a top member of Shinra and I can garuntee his oppion mattered on allaince/corp matters. I don't care, he was high enough that he could have pushed the allaince one way or another. Any GM in a leadership position should be removed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baroti View Post
    Listen, Enslaver was a top member of Shinra and I can garuntee his oppion mattered on allaince/corp matters. I don't care, he was high enough that he could have pushed the allaince one way or another. Any GM in a leadership position should be removed.
    agreeing with this

    it doesn't matter if enslaver was corrupt or not, because i just dont trust CCP employees to play fair anymore, so i want to know who they are

    Quote Originally Posted by John Doe View Post
    he was one of the most loyal members in Shinra
    this is a problem in itself

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Doe View Post
    T20 had already been punished. He had done nothing wrong since
    and you know that for sure?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titanx3 View Post
    You found the corrupt GMS, well done.

    Now stop it. This is pointless. You have turned a good cause into a pointless revenge trip Mulla.

    Please stop it.
    CCP defined the nature of this situation when they banned Kugutsumen's accounts for exposing the original dev misconduct.

    Kug I would keep fighting now, there is only one thing left to be gained for him: vindication.

    When he gets vindication he can stop.

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    Kug, good job! Don't listen to LV/BOD loyalists!

    and to all those Enslaver supporters:
    the problem isn't whether he cheated or not. The problem that he HAD opportunity to cheat!!! and it doesn't matter if he was a director or ceo or ordinary member.

    Also LV got mothership by event in their space, few days before greate war and GM scouted goon space in polaris. Strange isn't it? And if that's not enough think about petitions: what petitions would GM Enslaver admire, those of the goons for instance or those from his LV friends?

    And its not Kug who ruins Eve. CCP destroys it, by no clear policies of Dev/GM involvement, by employing ppl from major allainces, by doublestandards and favoritism, by testing game on tranq when they should do it in singularity.

    I used to pay money for this game, and I expect from devs/GMs neither being corrupt nor to have OPPORTUNITY being corrupt!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEVstructive Influence View Post
    Kug, good job! Don't listen to LV/BOD loyalists!

    and to all those Enslaver supporters:
    the problem isn't whether he cheated or not. The problem that he HAD opportunity to cheat!!! and it doesn't matter if he was a director or ceo or ordinary member.

    Also LV got mothership by event in their space, few days before greate war and GM scouted goon space in polaris. Strange isn't it? And if that's not enough think about petitions: what petitions would GM Enslaver admire, those of the goons for instance or those from his LV friends?

    And its not Kug who ruins Eve. CCP destroys it, by no clear policies of Dev/GM involvement, by employing ppl from major allainces, by doublestandards and favoritism, by testing game on tranq when they should do it in singularity.

    I used to pay money for this game, and I expect from devs/GMs neither being corrupt nor to have OPPORTUNITY being corrupt!!!
    FFS talk about retarded and brainwashed all in one.

    MCORP got the Hel from an event many months before "the great war". At least get your facts right before you try to flame us. And read elsewhere for my breakdown of how this was achieved.

    I STILL await someone to post conclusive proof that the Hel was acheived by nothing other than good work from my corp and a huge slice of luck. Thats 3 days now and still not even ONE single piece of evidence against us.

    I will still back us 100% until someone proves otherwise to me.

    As to Ens , how the fuck can you even suggest what you have typed ? EVERYONE has the opportunity to cheat every day due to known exploits , does that mean we should all be chucked out the game ? Does it fuck. Your reasoning is flawed completely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEVstructive Influence View Post
    and to all those Enslaver supporters:
    the problem isn't whether he cheated or not. The problem that he HAD opportunity to cheat!!! and it doesn't matter if he was a director or ceo or ordinary member.
    "HAD" the opportunity to cheat. Dude, what are you smoking?

    Everybody in eve has the opportunity to cheat. You as a player can scam people in Jita everyday. But you don't have to.

    It is likely that a GM has more opportunities to cheat. But he doesn't have to.

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    Looks to me likeThe Enslaver is still one of the LV diplomats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash View Post
    Everybody in eve has the opportunity to cheat.
    It is likely that a GM has more opportunities to cheat.
    the fact that he has more opportunities to cheat without being caught is enough for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jags View Post
    FFS talk about retarded and brainwashed all in one.

    I STILL await someone to post conclusive proof that the Hel was acheived by nothing other than good work from my corp and a huge slice of luck.
    I think u should ask Ens about how it was done

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    this statement of purpose is /signed

    Transparancy is the only thing that can save CCP now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEVstructiveInfluence View Post
    I think u should ask Ens about how it was done
    I think you will finds that Ens had fuck all to do with this....

    As I said before get your facts straight before you believe the bullshit out there.

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    as long as CCP doesn't disprove it with actual logs/whatever proof this rumour will stay alive.

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    I support you 100% Kugutsumen, you're my hero!!

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    Hey you two-bit knockoff, don't steal my forum name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jags View Post
    I think you will finds that Ens had fuck all to do with this....

    As I said before get your facts straight before you believe the bullshit out there.
    historically i have no reason to trust CCP and every reason to trust K. K is the only one providing any facts at all right now and as such i'm more likely to trust him than i am CCP.

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    my opinion for all the whiners who think Enslaver was an innocent victim:

    The community doesn't have the leverage to cause CCP to change its policy regarding employee players. This is simply because the employees DON'T WANT ccp to limit their gaming. However, if they all start losing their precious characters and have to sever ties with the in-game friends over it, then they might start thinking differently about the pros/cons of other methods of enjoying the game while working for the publisher. Put yourself in a GM/Devs shoes this week, wondering its your turn to be outed. If they don't want changes, we wont see changes. This is a way of forcing them to want change and that seems to be the only way to bring about change. It would be in their best interest if change provides them some protection even if it comes at a slight cost.

    If any employee wants to cry and bitch about it, then they should kick the shit out of t20 and any other corrupt employee after work some day. I'll take self-regulation any way I can get it

    Bravo kug

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    IMHO devs should not use battle-winning avatars like Titan pilots, or alliance directors/leaders. Its not their job to make game politics, but to run the game.

    If someone starts to work for CCP, he should give up these characters .. delete, sell, give to friends etc. Thats the price you pay for living your dream.

    At the moment I do not trust CCP - they have to re-earn that trust. And this way to treat new information is AGAIN abysmal.

    Ian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceylon View Post
    IMHO devs should not use battle-winning avatars like Titan pilots, or alliance directors/leaders. Its not their job to make game politics, but to run the game.

    If someone starts to work for CCP, he should give up these characters .. delete, sell, give to friends etc. Thats the price you pay for living your dream.

    At the moment I do not trust CCP - they have to re-earn that trust. And this way to treat new information is AGAIN abysmal.

    Ian
    I disagree with you. 100%

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImAdevALT View Post
    I disagree with you. 100%
    Hey you Bod Troll, look up this maybe..

    http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=429

    Focus in on this part :
    I believed, and still believe that we owe our player community the right to be the focus of EVE, without paid employees using dirty tricks to swing our universe in their favor. Even playing by the rules, I frown on employees being power players to the extent that their gameplay results in any sort of domination over others. I don't believe CCP employees should run the EVE universe; that spot is reserved for the paying customer. EVE is a sandbox, but it's not our sandbox. We're here to keep it clean and provide the sand.
    Do you see the conflict here of this character in A titan and a leading position in LV, is this not visible to anyone anywhere in BOD ?

    And if you now can turn on 1 brain cell please, please go check out Ark statement that 100% contradicts himself on this issue here that is quoted in page 1 in this thread..

    I wish people like you could disappear from EVE and threads like this, futher Ark should seriously be considering his new position for 100% contradicting himself in less than 1 month into the job..

    An unfortunate and sad ching of the glasses in the bar with a salute of gratitude for past performance, is being sent over to our beloved and dear from me., The current lack of performance is evident CCP. You just completely removed my last hope that you can deal with this correctly. I think the only way is a class action lawsuit at this point.

    Now have a good day..

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    First, Im not a member of Band of Brothers.

    second...:

    I have no problem with a ccp employe flying a titan and leading an alliance. Yes, he CAN cheat but its not equal to WILL cheat.

    Did enslavers (alleged) GM position help LV?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImAdevALT View Post
    Yes, he CAN cheat but its not equal to WILL cheat.
    and where is the guarantee that he wouldn't cheat? and why we should believe u? Because u r a BOD troll?
    Quote Originally Posted by ImAdevALT View Post
    Did enslavers (alleged) GM position help LV?
    Before or after the info of his position was released?

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    Actually If we forget for a second allainces warfare, policy, propoganda and other game related stuff we can see that Dev involvement does no good to anyone.

    What in the bottom line BOD has achieved from t20 involvement?
    -Hatred, shame, very low public image.

    What Enslaver got from his promotion?
    -ok, he got job, but was forced to delete his 3 year old char.

    What LV got from Enslaver promotion?
    -MCORP left, and it seems like collapse of this alliance was speeded.

    What Eve community got from dev playing the game on tranq?
    -Major bugs like node crashes are not fixed and ccp treats them like in game feature.

    What CCP got from dev playing the game?
    -NO trust from users, ppl canceled accounts

    May be some of us belong to different and even rival allainces, but one thing we have in common - CCP destroys our game by allowing devs to play it.

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    Enslaver doesn't fly the fucking Titan anymore anyway - Chowdown does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Doe View Post
    Enslaver doesn't fly the fucking Titan anymore anyway - several people logging into the char Chowdown do.
    fixed

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    My opinion:

    I used to think that Kug was a guy who was mad at corruption. After this post it is becoming more and more clear that perhaps this is how it all went down:

    Kug gets blown up by BoB members and gets smack talked.
    Kug uses "sources" to get information from BoB forums
    Kug finds out dev cheating helps BoB and is happy
    Kug exposes this (rightfully so)
    Kug gets accounts banned
    Kug gets VERY pissed off because he misses getting to play EVE
    Kug threatens CCP and gets no results
    Kug uses his "sources" to get info on some other innocent GM's (not devs)
    Kug threatens again and is again ignored
    Kug gets more pissed about his eve addiction not being satisfied
    Kug assumes that the enslaver stuff will get him "unbanned"
    Kug is even more pissed now so he will use "sources" to out other GM's in alliances that are associated with BoB

    About right?

    A word of advice...we all love the game. If you have legitimate corruption please expose it. If you have GM's that are playing legitimately please shut up about it. Stop trying to ruin it for everyone simply because your actions led to you not being wanted in game anymore by CCP.

    As for sources, I used to believe you actually did have them. Now, I am becoming more and more certain you are simply hacking into forums you would like to view.

    Finally, if the rest of you were TRULY worried about CCP and cheating you wouldnt pay to play the game anymore, yet noone seems to be cancelling their accounts. Weird, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by urfunny View Post
    As for sources, I used to believe you actually did have them. Now, I am becoming more and more certain you are simply hacking into forums you would like to view.
    i think i will just quote you bob muppets to reply to this

    "proof or stfu"

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