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This just in, Russian Supers seen preparing for a mass invasion of the South...
There were already 26 hostile alliances going up against Red Alliance the other day, you mean to say -A- is calling in MORE support?![]()
The average Joe in the south does not want the DRF overlords ruling them nor half of 0.0 space.
When XIX and the rest of the gang turn up, the same whiners will be clapping their masterful use of capital blobage.
GUYS, GUYS, GUYS!
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Daroh > I've bought a telescope, watching you guys fly in eve from my place )))
I hope PL can sleep at night knowing that when they accept this new trillion isk contract that they are helping botters ruin the game they play, cant RMT it shadoo when drf owns the server and devalues the isk![]()
Why are youguys allowed to do RMT jokes and when I do, I get warnings from CCP Game Masters. *snif*
Daroh > I've bought a telescope, watching you guys fly in eve from my place )))
I just wish the rest of eve grab their ballz and pop over to where the action is and have an orgy-pvp-fest but preferable shoot DRF.
Note that I am a Refugee (still sulking about me Gem), but want to play eve that little bit longer, as We (or just me?) know DRF/PL Block are going to rule majority of eve with their un-rivalled SC/titan fleet.
Fear not young black man, supercaps will be nerfed in less than 100 days.Originally Posted by Afr1can
Daroh > I've bought a telescope, watching you guys fly in eve from my place )))
Just to inform you.
A lot of the Southern Alliances, including -A- and ROL, were and in some cases still are RMT'ing ISK.
Also, botters are not just from DRF, but botters have been found in quite a few major alliances, such as Goons, MM, RAZOR, -A-. There is no question that botting can devalue a game, but keep in mind its not just one power bloc using them. If you want... go to high sec and look at all the mission botters, warp to 0 bots, market bots. Botting is an issue that is eve-wide.
Hell if you want, go and check AAA C (-A- renters) ratting habits. The number of botters there trying to make an income so they can pay -A-'s ridiculous rental prices is quite ammusing.
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Duder has a good point there! Don´t fall for the propaganda and hurf blurf about russians beeing the only ones who "ruin the game with bots" just take a good look around and you might find bots closer than you think.
botting exists in ever game its something you cant avoid which is a huge shame, the problem with the drf is that while stain empire are botting 10 chars in stain noone will ever see so that they can buy ships, the drf take it to such a extreme level that it starts to impact the game when they have entire alliances with thousands of botters that have the sole purpose of generating money via illegal means so that they can buy supercaps to get even more space for even more botters, this includes AAA citizens, red citizens etc
only thing to piss me off is that I have seen it so many times in other games, real players who can take enjoyment from a game slowly dwindle when its obvious that the game company only cares about the money these botters pay them in the form of active accounts.
the most fucking sad part about it is when theres 60k people online and its 10k people 50k botters CCP will still be in their delusion saying the game is healthy just look at the amount of subscribers
shit i typed serious words dont green rep me
earning one MEELLION DOLLARS *pinkie*
One! Jillion! Dollars!
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if ccp wants to remove them from game its easly:P but they dont want to do it. remove local chat only leave constelation chat ingame or put local chat into delayed mode and there u go. no bots can recognize local
also about drf and bots its a enemy propaganda for their stupid members and minions. noone prolly roamed ingame more then me and what i saw its that every fucking alliance ingame use bots. from north to south no exceptions
Your information is seriously flawed, and your propaganda is fail.
But here is a tid bit, -A- leadership has actually admitted that they need botters so that they can generate an income to help pay for sov bills and the like.
En Garde used to have a rule that if you spot a botter you can kill it (even if its blue), however, this rule was changed a few months ago due to -A-'s current stance on botting.
Stain Region may have only a few botters, but if you want to see -a- or -a- pet botters, you need to go to their respective regions. Tenerifis, Impass, Some areas in Catch. go to Feyth or Paragon Soul you'll see ROL and ROL pet botters.
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OMG, SE just reseted -A-!
So, SE gathered about 120 guys and were burning to 77s, when gang was close we got info what -A- already engaged RED. Basically SE reseted -A- because they have stolen GF by kicking RED ass before SE made it to the target.
You, sir, are deluded. Cascade Associates, for example, EXISTS for renting systems to botters. Hit them up using their out of game contact and they'll give you their rate card. The rate per character for a single system was quoted at 3.5Bn isk per month plus 15% tax when Manny led Cascade Imminent.
don't see anything here - http://eve-kill.net/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=5697 - or on dotlan (catch, filtering by NPC kills) that particularly indicates that :/
compared with say; http://eve-kill.net/?a=corp_detail&crp_id=75252
you took 1 corp out of a 7000 man RENTER alliance.
Grats, now compare that cascade one to http://eve-kill.net/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=861
Oh look, cascade.a have worse efficiency....than.... botters? How bad are these people?!?!?! I DONT GET IT!!!
Every major sov-holding alliance has botters in it. Deal with it. NC(used to), Goons, DRF, AAA. They all have them. If they make you ~~so mad~~, maybe you should do something about it.
chillax duder. what i was attempting to convey in my hastily mashed out post is that i don't see particularly organised botting within faila. whereas in shadow xx(and i only picked those because i remember trying to figure out how cernus was raping so many carriers) while the vast majority probably don't bot, they clearly give no fucks that people do.
we don't! well, at least we call them "supercaps builders" from where I come from but hey
Daroh > I've bought a telescope, watching you guys fly in eve from my place )))
So, Makalu is on it's own to lead fleets.Standings
From: Tek Enetheru
Sent: 2011.07.31 17:30
To: Archiebald Hornby, Fenix Zealot, James Kordent, l3VGV, Makalu Zarya, R17a,
We are setting following alliances neutral:
Against ALL Authorities AAA Citizens Cascade Associates Cascade Probable En Garde
LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM Unprovoked Aggression
these pretzels are making me thirsty
Hey fpshacker,can we get together some time this week and roam a bit? I miss you... Willing to shoot blues.(posted from an iPhone that is too cool to respect formatting... apologies)
3 types of nullsec botters:
Type 1) Renter Corp bots. These bots are there to pay the crazy high fees that you'd never afford unless you had someone running the belts 24/7. Oh hey...you do. These aren't 'sanctioned' or 'controlled' by the landlord alliance. They just set the fees, they don't care how the individual comes up with them. If the corp inhabiting the rented system wants to put 1 bot in there to pay the rent, or 100 guys in there at 10% to pay the rent...the landlord doesn't care. Just pay your freaking bills!
Type 2) Personal Bots. Again, not sanctioned, but maybe people look the other way. Joe Schmoe wants a piece of the supercap pie, or titan pie, or really likes not having to earn their isk, whatever. They stick a personal bot into a system, some neut tengu or drake, and use their in-alliance alt to supply it. Solid deniability, and again this isn't controlled or going to the alliance, as such...its a personal risk taken by someone to make some isk. Maybe its a couple guys getting together and doing it. Maybe its someone running 4 alts in hisec mining...personal 'side income' as it were, pays for plexes and more. There are a lot of these.
Type 3) Organised bots directed and controlled by the alliance. Very rare, IMO. I am sure many of you would know someone who bots, you may be friends with them, but you look the other way. However i would believe that there it would be a very rare occurence that alliance leaders would be directing their players to set up organised botting rings for some sort of goal.
I've seen a lot of type 1 and type 2 bots in nullsec. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of supercap construction from drone goo comes out of the personal bots, since you can run quite a few from one computer. People complaining about alliances of botters controlled by russians in dark rooms plotting the downfall of eve is mostly propaganda. Generally its just lazy/selfish people running bots for their own gain.
tbh if I were MM/razor/etc I would be helping the SC right now, not like they have anything else to do and I'm sure the grunts would love some revenge
I'm sure nothing is more fun than getting steam-rolled in the South by the same guys who just steam-rolled them out of their territory in the North.
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These pretzels are making ME thirsty.
any more sov attempts from RA and their merry band?
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<---- has never lived in the North. Good assumption though!
Russians were having a snail's grind in Geminate until Pandemic Legion gave them a US TZ. One could try to say that NC. will serve in the Southern Campaign what PL did in the Northern campaign, and one could try to say that carrots are really tasty. Would be wrong on both counts, but people will say nearly anything. It would be smart for ex-NC to help out -A- against the Russians until PL gets involved. After all, if -A- and crew can hold out until White Noise/NC. has to go home North, then Red Alliance would be looking mighty vulnerable sitting next door.
So far the scoreboard is:
- Russians: Took a non-station CVA system that didn't have an i-hub in it and defended Y-MPWL under a cynojammer.
- Southern Entities: Successfully defended fronts in both Teneferis and Catch thus far, while killing a titan and two supercarriers.
Thus far, the Southern Entities have done almost everything right. Certainly hasn't been a steamroll in any stretch of the imagination, just as the North wasn't steam-rolled by the Russians and just as Atlas wasn't steamrolled by the Russians. Without PL's involvement, the line can be held against them.
Except they now have tech to pay PL with if they want. They have even MORE isk potential than when they started the NC campaign, as i'm sure they've already replenished their warchest after the heady first few weeks of the war when there were so many super losses, and then had a long grind where they lost very little in the way of assets.
So now +tech, the only thing stopping them from hiring PL is ehonoure, or PL demanding a bigger piece of the pie because PL knows RusRus has more money and grinding AAA won't be any more fun than last time.
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