A Song of Ice and Fire: Delve Burns

**Mira Z** · 2011-09-25

Originally Posted by DurrHurrDurr

Let's be realistic here. Zagdul may in fact be terrible, but he is orders of magnitude better than RavenShadows or whatever the fuck the old FA CEO called himself and for that I like him.

So what you are saying, in fact, is that you can polish a turd.

**Rowan Sjet** · 2011-09-25

PL JF DOWN, KM INCOM~ING

SUP: https://www.pandemic-legion.com/kill....php?id=447054

**Glomp** · 2011-09-25

Hazing in PL is serious business.

**Dunarad** · 2011-09-25

Anyone wanting to fight? we did half of new eden and it was empty.

**Makia Velli** · 2011-09-25

They all at C6Y tonite..

**Dunarad** · 2011-09-25

Hopefully there is always R&K to gave you an hand when you need it

**Makia Velli** · 2011-09-25

Pretty epic brawl in C6Y tonite and it lasted for hours.. Started as our ihub came out with Ev0ke & Polaris vs RAWR/BRICK in battlecruisers slugging it out. Slowly more and more people keep coming in as kills started to pile.

http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=762

**dabigredboat** · 2011-09-25

Goons showed up with 190 to try and enjoy a good fight with the 200 of mm, who where setup at range, with bombers on the gate. vily of all people outsmarts mm fc, jump into sysetm safe and those dudes ran away. Hostile sbus dead and JP4 station will belong to goons shortly unless those 200 fight us.

EDIT: WE DEAD! but sbus down and jp4 station dying shortly

**MtA** · 2011-09-25

It's like Tribute with smaller ship classes.

Coming soon, the next stage: "We're moving to X, but we're not taking sov. We will reinvent ourselves into a fighting machine."

**INtarKll** · 2011-09-25

Originally Posted by dabigredboat

Goons showed up with 190 to try and enjoy a good fight with the 200 of mm, who where setup at range, with bombers on the gate. vily of all people outsmarts mm fc, jump into sysetm safe and those dudes ran away. Hostile sbus dead and JP4 station will belong to goons shortly unless those 200 fight us.

>50 canes down (KB still updating, no br yet) http://kb.morsus-mihi.org/

you were saying?

**Starbuck** · 2011-09-25

reshipping now. COME AND FIGHT FOR THE STATION, I CHALLENGE YOU GOOD SIR!

**dabigredboat** · 2011-09-25

we lost 100 minimum. You seem to be bad at smugposting. Let me show you how its done in about 1 hour.

**Tez** · 2011-09-25

Is it too late to post this?

Attachment 1696

If so, here is terrible original content of rainbow laser Coercers doing nothing and then dying.

**Kythren** · 2011-09-25

Originally Posted by Vee

I saw you lurking in JP4 for far longer than 5 minutes!

holy shit three pages of hurricane mails, WHYD YOU KILL MY BOMBER VEE

, now im mad

**INtarKll** · 2011-09-25

Originally Posted by dabigredboat

we lost 100 minimum. You seem to be bad at smugposting. Let me show you how its done in about 1 hour.

you are going to be smug about shooting structures that don't shoot back and no one cares about? you seem to be the one bad at smugposting

**tgr** · 2011-09-25

So, uh, "didn't want that space anyways" is the gist you're getting at, I take it?

**Brooks Puuntai** · 2011-09-25

Originally Posted by tgr

So, uh, "didn't want that space anyways" is the gist you're getting at, I take it?

Its MM who the fuck knows anymore.

**DurrHurrDurr** · 2011-09-26

I don't even know why Intarkll even bothers to post.

**dabigredboat** · 2011-09-26

Originally Posted by INtarKll

you are going to be smug about shooting structures that don't shoot back and no one cares about? you seem to be the one bad at smugposting

JP4 captured ~ now we get brick didnt' want that station anyways speech ~ 5-C falls tomorrow as we venture every closer to NOL- and freeing vees curour from nol-

**Darius III [banned]** · 2011-09-26

While the image is funny, everyone knows you got trolled and Brick would never take a deal over a fight. Watching GS propaganda go into overdrive is pretty cool though

When you are in alliance FILLED TO THE BRIM WITH SPIES you have to troll your own guys to make it seem legit.

**Vee** · 2011-09-26

the fight in jp4 between ev0ke/hrr and br1ck/mm looked pretty fun!

in hindsight i probably should have just formed up bombers instead of wait for two hours, then form up and assume the mighty (read: fear ridden) elena stormbringer would fight me with equal numbers

e: darius, you're full of shit, +1 brick squad station (-100 hurricanes)

**KingdomKnight** · 2011-09-26

Originally Posted by dabigredboat

JP4 captured ~ now we get brick didnt' want that station anyways speech ~ 5-C falls tomorrow as we venture every closer to NOL- and freeing vees curour from nol-

That's right. We didn't want that station system anyways. The hookers left already.

Anywho, interesting read considering I've been playing Dead Island for the last couple of hours.

**dabigredboat** · 2011-09-26

Originally Posted by Darius III

While the image is funny, everyone knows you got trolled and Brick would never take a deal over a fight. Watching GS propaganda go into overdrive is pretty cool though

When you are in alliance FILLED TO THE BRIM WITH SPIES you have to troll your own guys to make it seem legit.

What happened in geminate when you turned over all your stations to WN in favor of them not blowing you up? Just saying...

**tgr** · 2011-09-26

Originally Posted by Darius III

While the image is funny, everyone knows you got trolled and Brick would never take a deal over a fight. Watching GS propaganda go into overdrive is pretty cool though

When you are in alliance FILLED TO THE BRIM WITH SPIES you have to troll your own guys to make it seem legit.

Are you sure you're not TeRedrum's long-lost twin brother?

**Starbuck** · 2011-09-26

Originally Posted by INtarKll

you are going to be smug about shooting structures that don't shoot back and no one cares about? you seem to be the one bad at smugposting

Just trying to figure out if you are srs bzns.

**MtA** · 2011-09-26

[s]Brick would never take a deal over a fight.[/s]

Nevermind, for a second I misplaced what happened a couple of months back.

**Wusti** · 2011-09-26

Originally Posted by Darius III

While the image is funny, everyone knows you got trolled and Brick would never take a deal over a fight. Watching GS propaganda go into overdrive is pretty cool though

When you are in alliance FILLED TO THE BRIM WITH SPIES you have to troll your own guys to make it seem legit.

Darius - don't be even more retarded than you already look.

When you went to Geminate you were supposed to have a NIP in place and gudfights - but settled for being MM pets then, and you are doing the same thing right now with all the worst elements of RAGE/Majesta concentrated into one screaming shit heap of an alliance.

Do yourself a favour and cut the crap with that line cause it just aint so and we all know it. You never picked good fights in Gem - indeed you bent over for MM when you were told to do so. At least we knew we got rogered when forced accept RAGE's yoke - you act like you had a choice in the matter (you didn't), and act like the NIP was never part of the original deal (it was).

IE-EX and a couple of the original Br1ck corps are the real deal - but the rest of the shit you've accumulated? Ditch em mate and have some fun.

**DurrHurrDurr** · 2011-09-26

I think part of the problem is that a lot of players are still stuck back in an older era of EVE.

The metagame over the last few years has fleshed out immensely, from fittings to politics to strategy to even alliance policy. Going onto a forum and spewing shit out of your mouth and expecting people to believe it when information is so much easier to access and so much faster-moving than it used to be is pretty retarded.

Someone posted a link on TEST's forums with images from their director subforum of their directors stating the deal was going to go through; it wasn't until I think the fourth page that they decided to back out of the deal.

**fugazii** · 2011-09-26

They should get back to roots in Stain, were pretty chill then.

**Elenor Pewpew** · 2011-09-26

Just going to put this abomination here (that I had the misfortune to have direct contact with back in the day

)

Originally Posted by Creed Richards

What has become of a game that would drive people this low? What has become of honor? Will such people be allowed to complete their goals using such dishonorable and underhanded and downright mean tactics. I pray not.

In the SA war, even in the CODA war, I have never heard of our advarsaries going this low. Again, what has become of honor, even among advarsaries?

EVE is become a game that is very difficult to play these days. Between being very poor in PVP, being cruely ganged upon by the Goons, RL needs, and to top it off hearing about CCP's decision to give suicide gankers the means and rewards to search for big payoff targets in areas meant to be safe (see my rant in the relevant thread in the general forum) makes my sorrow all the more unbearable.

There is not much I can do for my corp or alliance these days, except pray. IMHO, God has delievered FIX many times from the brink since the first SA war. The prayer I posted above 9cg station has been answered. I thank Him for that, and I hope God will answer it now, and defeat those who wish to undermine us so cruelly and thoughtlessly.

It is one thing to fight against BOB and allies because of ideals. (they aren't perfect either, and I don't always like the manner they conduct themselves, regardless of recent allegations), but to go this low...It's just unexcusable.

I hope we can be lifted up, strengthened in resolve, Christ-like in mutual charity, and fight this. Fight with honor, fight with conviction, and make a good accounting of ourselves amd Gpd willing, rout this foe. I hope I could be a little more like that, and the time available to do that, maybe I could. But it's hard...JAKD and FIX has suffered much these past months, some wounds self inflicted, and they have yet to fully heal.

We need to get back on our feet, and stand tall again, even in the face of such darkness.

God save FIX.

Creed

ps...Please forgive this little emotional piece, recent events and reading have brought my spirits down and I needed to vent a bit.

Shamelessly reposted from http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/70324 seeing as I didn't have the foresight to copy it when I read it on the forum

I guess all the hurf blurf is from people who are young and take this game way too seriously, but I've seen older guys do it to who should know better. It's all just ego-boosting shit to make themselves feel better as ~importance spaceship ceos~

**Brooks Puuntai** · 2011-09-26

Oh shit FIX has God on their side. Might as well pack your shit up Goons.

**riverini [banned]** · 2011-09-26

Originally Posted by DurrHurrDurr

Riverini's still refusing to acknowledge my dropbox content ;-;

Fucking Brazilian douchebag.

what dropbox content?

**Opti** · 2011-09-26

is it even possible for DRB to say anything and not look like a retard

didnt think so

**John Caffeine** · 2011-09-26

Originally Posted by Dunarad

Hopefully there is always R&K to gave you an hand when you need it

Next time you should just head straight to Syndicate and you won't have to roam through half of Eve to get a fight.

Just derp around there for a bit and goodfights will come to you.

**Securitas** · 2011-09-26

Originally Posted by DurrHurrDurr

You mean welpfleet got welped? Who'd have thought.

TL;DR you win even if you lose

**riverini [banned]** · 2011-09-26

Originally Posted by Tez

http://kb.pleaseignore.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=254448

Note the rainbow-armed Coercers that acted as the tip of the spear, showering the enemy fleet with love and understanding before the main engagement.

edit:
Attachment 1691

Funny when i said in 5-CODA: AND BY THE POWER CONFERRED TO ME BY THE CHURCH OF GOON, I SHALL NAME THIS SHIP A "FAGGOTCAT"

immediately local went nuts

**Iratus** · 2011-09-26

No, you don't really lose, even if your whole fleet burns in a fire. Welpfleet is meant to be trown into a wall without being costly to alliance nor pilot wallets. It's got a low barrier of entry, and pilots are told, from the start, that they are likely going to die.

So... it's an effective fleet, without the drawbacks of many other fleetcomps. A welp does not demoralize, a welp does not leave you begging for replacements, and is capable of killing supers.

Of course, all of this is beyond the reach of people who think in terms of k/d ratios and other... elite measures of value.

**RCJ** · 2011-09-26

Originally Posted by Wusti

IE-EX and a couple of the original Br1ck corps are the real deal - but the rest of the shit you've accumulated? Ditch em mate and have some fun.

What? As an IE-EX member that was around for camping HED-GP and Geminate and all that stuff I can safely say that I have never had as much fun in EVE as I have had in Delve. I doubt all the other IE-EX members are enjoying themselves quite as much as I am but I know they're having a lot of fun too and the ones that aren't and want to spend the rest of their EVE life in HED-GP withering away have emo quit. The new members in the alliance take a bit of getting used to but they're all fine and I don't think there's a person that is really pissing the majority of our members off. I wouldn't presume to know so much about our corp and the feelings of its members because chances are you'll just be miles off especially considering maybe 5% of the corp (this is a made up bullshit statistic btw) actually posts on forums and stuff.

Also there was supposed to be a NIP in place but shortly after we settled into our space the NC attacked the Drone Russians so we had to keep them blue and then almost immediately after that failed horribly the Drone Russians invaded Geminate and we had to keep them blue for that too. It's not like there was a lack of targets around.

Anyway thanks for an amazing fight last night ev0ke. I was ready for bed but I thought I'd join in and get some kills and we ended up slugging it out for 6 hours.

Thanks for bringing it.

**The quick and the dead** · 2011-09-26

I literally do 2-3 L4's a week to pay for my welpcanes. (Thank you space communism) So yea, losing one pretty much means nothing to me and I joyously jihad with dbrb and vee and give no fucks.

**Opti** · 2011-09-26

I put on my cardboard armour and lift my wooden sword, dont think of me dying as anything but something that i have accepted, you cant hurt me

**Zakhodit** · 2011-09-26

Previously, in the epic thread The last Bastion of True Gooniness:

Originally Posted by MM ~Spymaster~ in a white dress

Many Bothans Died to bring you this information.

Meanwhile as a welpfleet begins massing near JP4

Originally Posted by Admiral Vee

Hold on this gate for a moment.

Originally Posted by Captain Red Boat

We're not going to welp?!

Originally Posted by Admiral Vee

We only need to keep them from escaping, The Mittani has something special planned.

At that very moment on a Pandemic Legion Battlefield server

Originally Posted by Grath

I feel that something hilarious has happened, as if hundreds of voices suddenly cried out in- FUCK! Did that ass hole just shoot me through a muthafucking wall?

And now, the conclusion of Morsus Mihi: The Phantom Failure Cascade!

We now return you to your regularly scheduled Delve Thread Bullshit.

**Far** · 2011-09-26

Originally Posted by Opti

I put on my cardboard armour and lift my wooden sword, dont think of me dying as anything but something that i have accepted, you cant hurt me

Eloquent, whatever way you take it.

Welpfleet is a philosophy as much as a doctrine, but it's still disingenuous to say that it isn't annoying at the very least to lose your fleet.

I see it as risk v. returns. Little isk and fucks given; returns have been pretty solid.

**penifSMASH** · 2011-09-26

Originally Posted by Zakhodit

Previously, in the epic thread The last Bastion of True Gooniness:

Meanwhile as a welpfleet begins massing near JP4

At that very moment on a Pandemic Legion Battlefield server

And now, the conclusion of Morsus Mihi: The Phantom Failure Cascade!

We now return you to your regularly scheduled Delve Thread Bullshit.

you put so much effort into making such terrible posts idgi

**Iratus** · 2011-09-26

Originally Posted by penifSMASH

you put so much effort into making such terrible posts idgi

Listen to the master, kids!

**Augu** · 2011-09-26

Originally Posted by Iratus

No, you don't really lose, even if your whole fleet burns in a fire. Welpfleet is meant to be trown into a wall without being costly to alliance nor pilot wallets. It's got a low barrier of entry, and pilots are told, from the start, that they are likely going to die.

So... it's an effective fleet, without the drawbacks of many other fleetcomps. A welp does not demoralize, a welp does not leave you begging for replacements, and is capable of killing supers.

Of course, all of this is beyond the reach of people who think in terms of k/d ratios and other... elite measures of value.

Every alliance in Delve have changed to battlecruisers and bombers? Cheap ships that you can lose and it doesn´t matter. Does it mean that no one can lose battle anymore?

**Tez** · 2011-09-26

Originally Posted by riverini

Funny when i said in 5-CODA: AND BY THE POWER CONFERRED TO ME BY THE CHURCH OF GOON, I SHALL NAME THIS SHIP A "FAGGOTCAT"

immediately local went nuts

I saw you ask if they were called Welpkittens in local before we moved on. Which is silly since they're very clearly Nyancats.

**Zakhodit** · 2011-09-26

Originally Posted by Augu

Every alliance in Delve have changed to battlecruisers and bombers? Cheap ships that you can lose and it doesn´t matter. Does it mean that no one can lose battle anymore?

Depends on how you define "Lose"

The goal is to take sov, No? (For this battle anyway) They have control of the system and they've spent an acceptable amount of ISK to do so, then I have to say they've won.

**Kythren** · 2011-09-26

Originally Posted by penifSMASH

you put so much effort into making such terrible posts idgi

ITT senilePash talking about terrible posting. im always surprised from where he appears AJregardstyle.

**Vinata** · 2011-09-26

Penif's right though, Zakhodit's posts are absolutely terrible.

**Augu** · 2011-09-26

Originally Posted by Zakhodit

Depends on how you define "Lose"

The goal is to take sov, No? (For this battle anyway) They have control of the system and they've spent an acceptable amount of ISK to do so, then I have to say they've won.

You are right. You win if there is some reason you are fighting for and you achieve your objectives. At this moment every fleet in delve is kind of welpfleet, it doesn't matter if you lose your ship or fleet.

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