EU does matter (to the EU dudes at least) and it sure could use the wild Muninn gangs.Originally Posted by Vonqueesha Shenaynay
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EU does matter (to the EU dudes at least) and it sure could use the wild Muninn gangs.
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Brother Vonq, I fear that you may have forgotten our one man army AU TZ. My apologies for the neglect that has lead to such an abhorrent situation. As soon as I have some time in front of a eve capable machine, operation Pidgeotto - I choose you will launch into a whirlwind (pun intended) to destroy dynasties!
I sympathize with Nulli's position. However, Elo wants his fights, and this is how he gets them. I'm pretty sure I know who we'll be shooting now when MM and Br1ck make their move on Nulli's Delve holdings.
I just want to point out that the "special ruleset" that Guderian (Warband) refers to and that Nulli members consistently insist is so intricate and needs to be exactly to our liking happens to be quite simple: We don't want to bother with fighting abaddons with triage support or maelstroms with triage support with muninns. Basically, we don't want to bother with fighting something where would lose beyond a shadow of a doubt. I don't think this is too much to ask, nor is it a detailed, intricate, difficult-to-meet standard. While I'll agree that there's quite a few BL members who make me gowith their smug shitposting, the simple fact is the reason they're doing that is because of the perceived attitude of Nulli membership in general: Fuck good fights and fuck Black Legion -- undock the hard counter every time.
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Dental Floss - Origin. - Black Legion.
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I respect you guys and your abilities. I even think these honour-fights are a good way to hone our skills and keep us thinking about the game.
But if you believe unleashing a torrent of spergeposting when a pre-arranged fight goes wrong, will make us more inclined to undock in anything else than abbadons, you are dead wrong.
A constructive attitude to all this has to be a two-way street.
Should a 1400 man pvp-oriented alliance be able to undock a cruiser and/or BC hull-based counter to a 50 man "elite pvp" gang every time they come by? I don't know, that seems a bit much, though they should definitely be able to do so 24 hours in advance.
Nulli need to build us a JB system and set us light blue so we can have honerable BS/triage fights. :P
Seriously though, the fundamental issue is pay us in fights or coins, or we will shit up your us tz sov ops when given the chance. It's not supposed to be fair, and it very much is ransom. If it's really that big of a deal to put out regular skirmish fleets, then get your overlords to shell out some coin to keep their buffer pets safe while they fight the Droner blob. Sounds like they're going to be a little too busy in us tz to come help in Delve themselves.
sigh
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Dental Floss - Origin. - Black Legion.
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Personally I think that a Munnin on Munnin honour fight would be pretty cool to go down. But that's just me and it's not like S2N is a dedicated Munnin alliance.
You wear your sov like a suit of armor, S2N. You think it keeps you safe, but all it does is weigh you down and make it hard for you to move.
How do you know?
When you play the game of sov, you win or you die. There is no middle ground.
Nice ninja-edit Matt
OMG Epic whinning, wtf is with all this speech of e-honor that nulli doesnt have? I mean seriously been around for several of there "encounters" sure they have done the triage archon thing, but as far as i can tell its just when there screwing around poking fun and don't have 100 guys that wanna undock and go pewpew, as for "counters" to muninns, abaddon's+guardians seem like a pretty solid counter to muninns if you ask me...
Hell they even cost similar... Yes bringing in cap's to triage is sorta lame, but honestly MM and friends do the same thing... And its sorta much more expected when u come into a home system like C3N and sit outside station trying to camp stragglers as they undock, how is that "honorable" thats not a good fight... and when 2 capitals undock from there own station and spider tank... honestly its their system did you not expect that? As an attacker shouldn't you be the one thats "looking for counters" the defense has chosen its counter, that has nothing to do with "honor" if Country B attack the US with tug boats with machine guns, and USA sends in destroyers and aircraft carriers, is it an "honor problem" no, its an escalation problem, its up to the attacker to escale on there side if they decide they want a "good fight" and escale to bring in there own destroyers/carriers/super carriers ...
And beyond that this is f*cking eve, since when did anyone have "honor"
Woke up, took a shower, glanced at Kugu before heading to work (changed jobs and can't read it there anymore) and OMFG Elo is CURSING in a thread.
This is very serious indeed, no joke. Those of us in BL who align improperly or jump drunkenly or babble incoherently when fleet orders are issued have met with Elo's withering rage like "Oh dear" and "Quit being dumbos, guys" and, I kid you not, "If you keep this up I'm going to turn this fleet around and go home."
And here, in this thread, Elo is typing curse words at Nulli.
MM may have just hired us without paying a cent.
Oh dear.
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So MM can't PvP yet there is endless tears and excusses about why it took you 6 hours to form up, why we lack e-honor for using bombers ect.
Every time BL says hey guys you want an honor fight we scrap what we have together and give it to them......it's more fun then fighting the consistant abbadon blobs with triage support.
As far as MM dropping carriers when we are out numbered I agree we do you dropped triage archons in a fight where you outnumbered us 3 to 1 in RCI and still lost so what ever.
All I know is Black Legion has shown they are honorable and Elo is trust worthy, when MM failurecascades that is the place I want to call home.
Yes I can fly a munin and I do have plenty of isk to self fund my munin fleet.
If BL wanted Sov, I promise you spacefriend. They would have alot more than you by now.How do you know?
Gicer.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
I'll just point out the obvious:
The last time MM fought BL was 10 days ago.
Holy crap you guys are really sad, it's so funny...
You know I didn't think I had standards, but the last 2 pages has made me realize that I do. Thank you for that :P
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And you're a kugu troll. You'll fit in perfectly.
Vouch.
awww, chaos theory are an alliance with such skill and such a high participation that they can remove active corps and dont even give a fuck
2011-07-27 07:01:00 DreamTrooperX
Chaos Theory AllianceFW: Important ----Corp-
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2011-07-27 14:33:00 DarkStarWarrior
Chaos Theory AllianceTemp TS server and a Little word from me ---Corp--
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Hahaha, of the people on that list I already know who leaked the mail. Say hi to kugu DreamTrooperX, aka UnknownPoster.
I get back from vacation tonight, I'll have to catch up on this thread then.
Toodles~
No. It just means we play the game another way then you, We have our space for our reason and you didn't like it and left which is fair. like it or not some alliance in this game want sov some don't, and clearly ATM S2N wants sov.
Sov is the sauce fools spoon over failure to hide the flavor of their own incompetence.
Don't. It's awful
There's nothing worse than having a good idea for a post not being good enough to pull it off :negative:
Comparing real life to a video game certainly convinces me of the wisdom of your words. I'll give you a tip: Video games are played for fun. Multiplayer games and PVP specifically is a competition. Using real life military examples with a straight face and saying it applies is complete horseshit.
By the way, I'd be writing more witty responses but the egg on my face from our members is making me hungry. At least it's not cold and crusty like the one on Guderian's face. The only thing worse than cold eggs is wet socks.
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Sov is serious business. So are gude fites. Fleet concepts are serious business, and SPACE HONOUR is serious business. So is winning. WINNING. Losing is serious business too. Well damn! Serious business is everywhere! Seems that no matter what you do there will be some seriously mad people. Who'dathunk?
Ah well, back to playing EVE.
You know I didn't think this thread had standards after the last 2 pages, but this post has made me realize that it does. Thank you for that :P
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I think you mistyped that dude. :P
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Think you might be misreading it.
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Yeah, our gangs are actually like 50 dudes now.
Mfume Apocal - Origin. - Black Legion.
That's a fair point. Not really sure where a gang ends and a fleet starts, though 50 is probably past the "gang" point for most people. I used "gang" more in the sense of we just undock and go look for trouble, where "fleet" carries connotations of strategic objectives etc, for myself at least.
Hope that clears things up.
and since Tarin decided to be even more coward, promised fight didn't happen, there is something fresh to laugh at (+ BL fleet commentary).
http://soundcloud.com/tomasmarny/latest-c3n-after-fight
also the earlier mentioned Guderian's titan http://i.imgur.com/vtnNz.jpg true story.
Tomas Marny|Origin.|Black Legion.|BBC
2011.07.25 22:54:54 ] progodlegend > how bout tomorrow 0300
?[ 2011.07.25 22:55:00 ] Elo Knight > sure
?[ 2011.07.25 22:55:01 ] progodlegend > so wednesday 0300 eve time
?[ 2011.07.25 22:55:05 ] progodlegend > tuesday night us tz
?[ 2011.07.25 22:55:08 ] Elo Knight > yup
?[ 2011.07.25 22:55:12 ] progodlegend > k
5-6 hours later.
2011.07.26 05:17:54 ] progodlegend > elo can we push tomorrows fight back?
?[ 2011.07.26 05:17:59 ] progodlegend > I have way too much to do
?[ 2011.07.26 05:18:08 ] progodlegend > tomorrow
?[ 2011.07.26 05:18:10 ] Elo Knight > dude I already called op and promsied mah doods
?[ 2011.07.26 05:18:12 ] Elo Knight > ((((((
[ 2011.07.26 05:18:59 ] Elo Knight > my guys will literally rape your alliance into the ground on kugu and errywhere else
?[ 2011.07.26 05:19:02 ] Elo Knight > since you already agreed
[ 2011.07.26 05:21:57 ] Elo Knight > already got logs of your agreement and no bs agreement
?[ 2011.07.26 05:22:10 ] progodlegend > well take logs of this
Sorry man, but I told you I couldn't make it, rl, so I never put an op up, see you next time though. Honestly, if your are such a prick that you can't cancel an op literally while all the same people who are gonna be there tomorrow are in fleet (you were all in a fleet at the time), then its whatever man. Sometimes I can't log into eve cause I have to do basic things like eat and shower, though I am working on moving my refrigerator/microwave closer to my computer and I think once thats done I can do away with the showers.
Didn't realize you were Nulli's only fc mybad
ITT David is mad at Goliath for Goliath wanting to wrestle and Goliath is mad at David cause David wants a footrace.
Yeah that was a Bible analogy. Why, wanna fight about it?
Always keep your foes confused. If they are never certain who you are or what you want, they cannot know what you are like to do next. Sometimes the best way to baffle them is to make moves that have no purpose, or even seem to work against you. Remember that, S2N, when you come to play the game.
:mindblown:
Well not you, obviously. I can only assume you've had your trollshots and now you're immune to BL posting.
I dunno I feel like we're gonna settle on something then you back out of it for some reason.
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If this is about the avatar thing I promise it's in the mail. The dog ate it.
Oddly enough I was going to mention that if you had a retort ^^
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My body rejects those. Its a well-known fact I am easily trolled.
Listening to your coms after you lost is so funny, Progod I have a new found appreciation for what you have to deal with.....best of luck with that.
Personally I tend to share BL's perspective on space-honour, as someone who has played this game for quite a while, I already know the "end results" that we tend to be focused on in terms of sov and resources are rarely as enjoyable as the fights it takes to get them. As such I can sympathize with the "lets just fight" attitude that you guys have towards us, but I suspect the majority of us tend to be more goal-oriented. I realize its more or less the same "we're about sov" line that you guys seem to look down on, but this whole debate seems to be fairly common between our two mindsets and its kind of confusing when people don't accept it as a fact of life. I'm not saying we're as bloated and bearish as SYS-K mk2 yet, but it can't be a stretch to imagine a sov entity that is currently involved in a sov war is as unfocused to small-scale pvp as we are.
That being said, it seems evident to me that we're at least making an attempt at meeting BL's expectations. As far as the broken agreement with progod and guderian, I can say that they are both of the same mindset as myself in that they prefer space-violence over no-space-violence but obviously timing and real life are factors here. I'm pretty certain that even though things seem to have gotten off to a rocky start the potential for enjoyable pew-pew is still there.
fake e: confirming warband is easily trolled
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"Its like a friendly in soccer..."
"They're not friendly, dude. They're not friendly at all"
BL: Not friendly at all.
The point we're getting at is that you nigs should have more than one FC. It's not like you're going to need anything special to do it. Just tell people when the op is, tell them the shiptypes and then meet in space somewhere. And then we go at it without podding so we can pew pew... it's not rocket science.
For those who do pvp, the actual pvp aspect is why we play. The amount of time you spend looking for a fight these days is fucking horrendous. So many times I rush when I get off work to try and catch up to our roam, only to fly around for 40j to not get a single fight. The fights are what makes us log in, I don't know about you guys.
tl;dr
Someone stop being a pussy and step up to FC if progod or guerdian can't make the op. And stop getting all butthurt because we bash on you nigs for backing out of an agreement because you have a lack of FCs.
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Would like to point out that in that recording pgl still says "we're fighting them tomorrow night" hhfkfttdcm,hh sperg
I come here today to confirm my overpowering fear that Black Legion are the most cunning public orators of their generation. Surely the commentary they would unleash upon us should we fail to undock in something they can easily kill when they demand it will be the end of us. We must evolve, my bretheren, by choosing to allow BL to determine what we fly, how many we bring, when, and where we engage.[ 2011.07.26 05:18:59 ] Elo Knight > my guys will literally rape your alliance into the ground on kugu and errywhere else
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