I won't be happy until I seeOriginally Posted by BLACK BOX
I won't be happy until I see
If we have smith can we have unsmith too?
i think theare kind of dumb looking but i added them anyways
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No, I didn't know what emoticon it was supposed to be (it was on;y added by kugutsumen later.)
On goonfleet.com it is
Was that what you wanted to know?
YOU TAKE THAT BACK RIGHT NOW.i think the
no its not, it's : eveo:On goonfleet.com it is
Was that what you wanted to know?
No, I didn't know what it looked like becuase it wasn't added to this site at the time of the post. Now I do know.On goonfleet.com it is
Was that what you wanted to know?
It is understandable to think that... until you see THIS:i think the
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http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingamebo...89&page=10#271
gofoi, given the pathetic witch hunt that is going on if you want answers you're going to have to get specific.
No Dev has EVER given me, or anyone in RKK, any blueprint of any kind. (to my knowledge and all that jazz).
i'm shocked they let 1 post allowed in the thread much less allow it to get to 24 pagesI'm putting a lock on the thread. The discussion has degenerated into a number of arguements, flaming and trolling. I have made a number of statements regarding the investigation, what is being done internally and what will transpire once the investigation is complete.
I would ask the community to exersize patience and wait for the results of the investigation. Please do not start new discussion threads over this topic.
kieron
Community Manager,
EVE Online
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I think they understand what a big deal this is, and that the playerbase wasn't going to just gloss this one over. If it were SWG, there would be riots in the streets of Theed on every server. I don't think EVE wants the equivalent of that.
considering how arduous itll be for most of us travel to jita and protest, i dont think that will be a problem
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From the slashdot thread...
I no longer play Eve Online but I think some of you may find this interesting. In response to the BoB+Dev drama on the forums: I have been telling people there are high-up Polaris members, probably GMs, and possible Devs in the leadership of BoB for several years.
"Well yeah," you say, "so have tons of other people. What makes you so special?"
I was a forum moderator. Yep. I probably shouldn't say which one but I was. I also have many megabytes of IRC chatlogs from the private Polaris channels and thousands of emails sent to the moderator alias. Why am I mentioning this? There's something really really specific I want to address:
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Posted by: Eponine Astarte
Industrial Holdings Unlimited
I'm not bothered by there being devs in BoB. There should be devs involved in 0.0 politics, just as there should be devs who are high sec mission runners, low-sec pirates, and Jita industrialsits.
But here is what REALLY bothers me:
How did Dianbolic know that the person who petitioned Inos was an alt? The person who petitioned Inos did so anonymously because he feared that BoB would find out the identity of his main. The fact that a BoB director was able to identify who the alt was is pretty disturbing.
That, more than the mere existence of a BoB GM, shows how they are abusing their positions within CCP and using their jobs to gain an in-game advantage. Dianbolic should never have had any clue whatsoever as to who the petitioner was, yet lo and behold he did.
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I'll tell you exactly how he did this, because I did it once.
Petitions are tied to your account name. Normal forum moderators (like I was) can see your account name when we give you a warning on the forums. We cannot see what other characters are tied to that account name, but obviously it's pretty easy to identify an alt if you check the warning history on two different characters: not only will the warnings all be there (even though the names are blanked out for different characters) but their account name will be there if you try to send them an email.
There was once someone we suspected strongly as a traitor in an allied corporation. The enemy we'd been fighting was pretty well-informed as to our movements, and there was a certain character that always seemed to show up at the right time. So what did I do?
I looked up both characters on the forum. They were on a different account, sure, but the person behind them hadn't been real smart: one of the accounts simply had a "1" appended to the end of it. Nailed him.
We ended up luring his main character out and podding him in Yulai before booting him from the corp.
What I did was certainly an abuse of power, but trust me, it happens ALL the time. I had a friend in Aurora (the events program) who would feed me intel about where events would be and what they'd be like. I could just show up at the right time in the correct type of ship, participate, and snag the reward. I got a +4 implant that way before level 4 agents existed, much less loyalty points and rewards.
Everyone did this, and they've been doing it since the game came out. About 6 months into the game we were told not to use our Polaris character's /tr commands to scout the game for good mining spots. We still did it because nobody bothered to track us (even if they could--their tools were rudimentary at best back then).
In my IRC chat logs there is a good amount of circumstancial evidence of high-up Polaris members (people with more authority and rights than me) were in BoB (and others. I don't remember perfectly but I believe one of the major players in MC is a Polaris Captain.) A friend and I were able to identify over the course of several months the other Polaris members that were in our alliance and in other alliances--a fun little game.
Anyway, it's pretty gratifying to finally see this all exposed. There's a lot more of it happening in lesser degrees, and there always will be, but the CCP I know is only going to take care of stuff that's exposed. Just remember it's all subtle--the people that do this stuff have to be smart and cautious, which is why it took so long to get caught. The stuff I did was incredibly minor, which is why I was never caught.
Have fun.
That's already been posted here
CAPTAIN THUNK
Inserted more detailed list of alts
UPDATE: I forgot this thread:
He didn't give 8 (EIGHT) BPOs that guy gave fucking 10 (TEN) T2 BPOs to them.
HEY GUYS MAYBE THAT DEV EARNED THOSE 10 t2 BPOS ON HIS OWN MERIT!
Edit: I take everything on this forum with a grain of salt.... but 10 t2 bpo's in one persons hands is fucking suspect. Or maybe CCP reward devs and GM with t2 bpo's the way Microsoft or Google rewards employees with stock options.
He could have gotten REALLY REALLY REALLY lucky in the bpo lottery, right?
Right?
IBPoSTFU
HAY GUISE HE PROBABLY HAD NO CLUE, DUE TO BEING A DEV, HOW TO GET AHEAD IN THE T2 LOTTERY. I SEE NO PROBLEM WITH DEVS GATHERING RESOURCES THROUGH INTERNAL KNOWLEDGE OF THE SYSTEM AND DONATING THEM TO RANDOM CORPS AND ALLIANCES.
I ALSO HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH DEVS RUNNING CAPSHIP PROGRAMS FOR RANDOM ALLIANCES. COME ON, THE GUY EARNED HIS WAY TO DIRECTORSHIP BY BEING KNOWLEDGEABLE.
-dbp
- not sworn to secrecy by CCP
Am I the only person that noticed this?
This was from the list of alts...
My emphasis. Is this a copy/paste from his original post or was it edited?Originally Posted by Ishos Rerajan
mains:
Pilot: Ishos Rerajan (main / RKK)
Specialisation: Amarr
Licenced: Amarr BS, Amarr BC, Amarr Command Ships, Amarr Interdictors, Amarr Cloakers, Amarr HAC, Amarr Interceptors
Notes: Maxed out Armored Warfare + Command ships + mindlink
... etc etc etc deleted several listings, see OP ...
Pilot: Mabelle Merim (main / MERIM)
Specialisation: Gallente / Industrial / Science
Licenced: Gallente Cloaker, Gallente Freighter, Mining Barges, Exhumers, Gallente Recon Ships
Notes: Cyno-able pilot, can build everything ingame
it wasn't edited and I didn't even notice. It probably means that this character has all the industrial skills required for t2 and capital ship production.
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