Bob is afraid of AAA + Goons + RA + D2

[Seikima]

Christmas Day, Bob HQ,

shakaZ XIV asks: "Why wouldn't they go for us? :P

Seriously though... /me looks in crystal ball (or was it tinfoil ball ;p), and sees: AAA probably wanna help RA wipe LV off ze map, then nap D2 (they have done this already, afaik?), after which AAA + goons + RA + D2 + all the other bob haters all gang up on us muhaha!

Or not... but you never know! ;p

/me starts mass producing tin-foil

Either way, totally lame from AXE that they just give up. :lol: gg to AAA tbh.."

DigitalCommunist replied: "We also have D2 going to war with us soon (the full extent of which is not clear), with the Fountain flamers and AAA making a move on us at the same time. Since AXE pulled out relatively quick, this might be before we can take all stations and secure them. Translating to capital gangbang in three different regions. If they get their timing right, we're finally gonna have us a good ole challenge on our hands :P

This should make you both horny and worried at the same time, but never afraid. Even if we lose stations or entire regions, its the long run that counts. And of those 3, only AAA would have the willpower to keep it up for half a year.

Oh and D2 finished an Erebus this morning."

Let's rewind a little bit...

D2 bought an erubus BPO around the 6th of November. At the time Bob had its hands full and was considering taking out D2 capital ship array around the 11th of December with MC and Fix... maybe this is another indication of Bob being overstretched.

At the time Sir Molle said: "Titan needs popped, bring MC and FIX." but there were still concerns of ASCN getting back on its feet... Krystal suggested"
let D2 have their titan and grow some balls, we'll kill it eventually is my opinion."

To this, Rift Scorn replied : "Couldn't state my feelings better on the subject. Make no mistake D2 will not take it lightly if we do this. I'm all for ruining D2's ****, but squish ASCN first then smash D2.

Seeing as they've NAP'd everything that moved in the North Rolling Eyes and they've had a break from POS wars there's nothing to stop them hitting us hard when we got the remnants of ASCN that could get organized and try a re-take."

DB Preacher reminded everyone that the original plan was:

1. attack ascn, **** them off, take out capital fleet.
2. attack d2-, **** them off, take out capital fleet.
3. Spend next year in delve with all of eve attacking us.

Sir Molle rectified dbp's post saying that it was supposed to be D2 first.dbp posted an old convo...

[Seikima]

<Chowdown> Yo
<dbp> hello mr chow
<Chowdown> How are you?
<dbp> aye not bad, just back from physio... I broke both bones in my legs 2.5 weeks ago
<dbp> so sat on my ass most of the day
<dbp> how about you?
<Chowdown> Yeah not to bad
<Chowdown> finally got a proper internet connection after a year
<Chowdown> so pretty chuffed
<dbp> sheesh, that must have been a nightmare Very Happy
<Chowdown> Yup stealing wireless is OK
<Chowdown> but not the most reliable on dread ops Razz
<Chowdown> anyway the reason I have hunted you down
<Chowdown> and I have chatted to thol about it a bit
<Chowdown> we believe d2 may be building RA a titan
<Chowdown> needless to say
<Chowdown> that ****s us off a fair bit
<dbp> why build ra a titan?
<dbp> why not build it for themselves?
<Chowdown> Cause they don't like us
<dbp> btw, we know the exact location of the titan
<dbp> and when it is due out
<Chowdown> Well as I understand they have an erebus in production for themselves
<dbp> that's the one we know about
<Chowdown> yup potentially they have a second
<Chowdown> as I understand
<dbp> they have 2 motherships
<Chowdown> you guys will be finishing off ASCN fairly soon
<dbp> not seen anything that suggests another titan
<Chowdown> and after we have made are token effort defending ASCN in there death throws
<dbp> we won't actually, we've taken paragon soul but feth will be another 2 or 3 months
<Chowdown> hmm
<Chowdown> I don't know man
<Chowdown> there leadership is in a **** state
<Chowdown> lots of in fighting
<dbp> have you seen how many outposts they have
<dbp> the pure logistics of killing it all is going to take a while
<dbp> they broke badly in paragon soul a couple of weeks ago
<Chowdown> I think they might put there hands up
<Chowdown> or certain factions of them
<dbp> but are regrouping now in feth
<Chowdown> AXE will be hard work
<dbp> we're not interesting in axe tbh
<Chowdown> but Molle has good relations with SR as I understand
<dbp> we did have
<Chowdown> ahh well there you go Razz
<dbp> but he's ****ed at us
<dbp> coz we killed cyvok
<Chowdown> he is a bit petulant to be honest
<dbp> or are killing
<dbp> they are ****** with AAA anyay
<dbp> I doubt they'll manage to hold that region with aaa there
<dbp> which has been great for us albiet I hate aaa with a passion Razz
<Chowdown> yup
<Chowdown> well 3 factions are well up there on my hate list
<Chowdown> RA/Goon, D2 and aaa
<Chowdown> to be honest I am not to fussed about anyone else
<Chowdown> d2 will be growing soft tho
<Chowdown> they have been pretty much left alone for some time now
<dbp> in the summer, we looked at who to hit
<dbp> we decided D2 > ASCN
<dbp> err
<dbp> D2 THEN ascn i mean
<Chowdown> but ASCN forced the issue?
<dbp> however, when we were actually ready to go to war, we found that d2 were ****** up
<dbp> so we hit ascn first
<dbp> d2 have regrouped and are looking stronger
<dbp> so we'll batter them after ascn is finished
<dbp> ra/goons will get some too
<Chowdown> Well wuth the advent of Kali, we are excited about in roads we can make on RA
<Chowdown> goons are losing the will to fight
<dbp> without bull****, how is it going against ra/goons?
<Chowdown> well
<Chowdown> no bull**** and between us
<dbp> same problems as ever? RA just impossible to finish off?
<Chowdown> V are a pile of dog turd
<dbp> fair
<Chowdown> and are losing ground to RA through the inability to manage POS
<Chowdown> so I sat down with there managment the other day
<Chowdown> and I think that will be sorted
<Chowdown> the advent of our titans
<Chowdown> will make it very ahrd for RA/Goon to be effective
<Chowdown> as they will not be able to lock down any systems
<dbp> the titan is lovely btw, the jump bridge instantly bypasses that ******* pish traffic control
<Chowdown> yup very excited about that factor
<dbp> it sounds like you are still caught in a bit of a mincer of a war
<Chowdown> and as you know, it is easy to defend a death star against 200 when you have 20 in system
<Chowdown> to be honest
<dbp> aye
<Chowdown> I will attempt to save V's space
<Chowdown> V, KOS etc
<Chowdown> CHIMP
<Chowdown> I wanted them to suceed, but in the worst case scenario
<Chowdown> they were just a meatshield
<Chowdown> for us to properly defend and gain enough regions
<Chowdown> that is in plac enow
<dbp> fair
<dbp> you going to keep omist and tenerifis?
<dbp> couple of my dudes keep ******* off into omist annoyingly
<dbp> but then end up getting camped down for hours on end
<Chowdown> yup the alliance we have down there is alright
<Chowdown> We see it as our home now
<dbp> tbh, it's the bext protected industrial space we've seen
<Chowdown> well my home well always be curse Smile
<dbp> bext&
<dbp> **** my spelling :X
<Chowdown> You should see what we have sitting in the stations Razz
<dbp> hehe
<Chowdown> my too mate dyslopixs
<dbp> so what are you proposing with regards d2?
<Chowdown> mine*
<Chowdown> well we should of done it before they made the changes
<Chowdown> with regards to reinforced
<Chowdown> but maybe a joint venture we can site the reason
<Chowdown> RA titan in production yada yada
<dbp> we would need to find the actual titan site
<dbp> and like i say, we haven't seen it
<Chowdown> I have 5 people working on that atm
<dbp> only the 2 moships and titan
<dbp> for d2
<dbp> if you can find it in the next two weeks
<dbp> I'm pretty sure we could come to some arrengement with regards a joint venture to kill the erebus AND the ra titan
<Chowdown> yup
<Chowdown> if the ra titan exist
<Chowdown> exists
<Chowdown> but
<Chowdown> to be honest
<dbp> but it would have to happen in the first week of december really
<Chowdown> D2 smacked us loads with regards to losing POS warfare with RA
<Chowdown> without understanding it
<Chowdown> then they got owned
<Chowdown> and they shut up
<Chowdown> well that still stings me
<Chowdown> I would be happy to take out there Erebus
<dbp> cool
<Chowdown> as long as things looked OK down south
<dbp> we could take a week out without a problem
<Chowdown> Well it is not so easy for us
<Chowdown> unrelenting is the term
<Chowdown> But maybe we could bring 30 dreads and a titan up
<Chowdown> as we have little use for the dreads atm
<Chowdown> I have employed MC to hit RA in the complexes
<dbp> ok, let me break it down with the other dudes
<Chowdown> or hopefully will soon
<dbp> but basically, it's up to you to find the titan
<Chowdown> which should hopefully take up a lot of there resource
<Chowdown> yup
<Chowdown> regardless of that tian
<Chowdown> if it exists
<Chowdown> wwe are interested in busting the erebus
<dbp> ok, I'll get back to you with our thoughts later this week
<Chowdown> cya dude

[Seikima]

Blacklight, bob's wannabe spymaster, suggested: "Would be a good general overall strategy to work unofficially with LV to clean all the ****ers out of the south and smack D2 about i.e. we take care of ASCN whilst LV concentrate on reds, we both smack D2's titan and then we both smack both RA/Goons (if they are still going) and then AAA."

At the time D2 was already preparing for Bob's strike... "As far as we know BoB will strike the D2 Titan POS together with FIX and MC, to make sure that we wont finish building the ship by 04.12.06

D2 will do anythin to defend the Titan, probably nap with ragoon if necessary"

Around November 25th, there was a whole discussion as why LV doesn't want to help bob: "After thinking on it more. It really does stink. I would dearly love to kill that titan I mean its the whole BoB vs G thing again really but this benefits LV not us. If they want it dead they come with. We're ready to leave our regions undefended to go and do a job that gives them more than it does us while they sit on their arse. The whole thing reeks of bull**** at this stage and makes me feel that if we go we're gonna come back to find LV, ASCN and half the north squatting in delve"

Alasse said: "I agree completely with Dian (and my god does it hurt Neutral).

Us, MC & FIX all on the other side of the galaxy would be a wet dream for anyone interested in hitting us and there'd be absolutely **** all we could do about it for days.

Not to mention the fact we'd lose most of our capital fleet in the process, we'd be in a very, very sticky situation if LV & ASCN (maybe D2?) were to roll in to our space at any point within weeks after the fact."

Valora: "We cant stop people from getting titans forever, they will get them sooner or later whether we like it or not. Maybe we should focus on making ourselves stronger, rather than trying to weaken 1 opponent which isnt going to directly benefit us.

Sure, its theoretically easier to kill a titan in the POS on paper, but lets say we reversed the situation and we had 1week of advance knowledge that 50 dreads were going to hit one of our pos... im pretty sure we wouldnt have much trouble formulating a plan that would allow us to *****that dread fleet...."

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